PET PROJECT of the Cestleger Citizen Band Radio Club received a $1,351.92 boost Saturday evening at the club‘s first fall meeting

when three cheques were presented to the Kootenay Society left to right, club president Ken Randall receiving th

|. Shown here are,

for

Gypsy). The two-year-old club, which has a 133 membership, also

natin S.

~ + found sighing a scraybuok con:

Wis a kag 1 ney PRIMUS tase ‘eure given tos Kootenay + Soelety for the Handicapped. The cheques represent profits from last June's CB Break which wan attended by over 400 persons. The

money was ralsed through bingo, a beer garden and a lottery. A bowling “fun night” is planned by the local club on Oct. 2 and is open to all CBers though a limited amount of tickets are available.

—Leo Sommers Photo

Surprise Party Marks Wedding Anniversary

A surprise party marking

the 25th wedding anniversary .

of Mr, and Mrs, Denny Hughes of Castlegar was held Saturday evening at the home of Mr. and Mrs. Jim Horswill with over 40 persons attending,

Included in the guests were Mr. Hughes’ sister, Mrs,

Phyllis O'Neill, her son-in-law -

and daughter, Mr. and Mrs. Dave Hodson and children Eric and Debbie, all of Penticton, and Mrs. Hughes’ brothers and sisters-in-law, Mr. and Mrs. Bill Vanderburgh of Grand Forks and Mr, and Mrs, Bob Vander- burgh of Oliver.

‘The evening waa planned by the couple's four children, Tom, Kay, Dennis and Rhonda, Upon their arrival guests were

taining the cards, clippings and personal notes kept by the bride on pre-wedding activities 25 years ago,

Also on display was the bridal gown which had been made by the bride's mother.

The honored couple were presented with many beautiful gifts,

Displayed on a specially decorated cake was an orna-

Readers Respond to Sorokin Interview

Two weeks ago, the Castle- gar News carried a report of an interview with Stephan Soro- kin, the spiritual leader of the Sons of Freedom religious sect. The interview had been con- ducted by Betty Makortoff of the Grand Forks Gazette, and was first carried in that news-

paper.

The interview raised con- siderable controversy in the Grand Forks area, and resulted in several letters to the editor of The Gazette, which are re-

. printed cae ue Dear Sir.

Please allow me via your column to express a few words pertaining to the contents of “story by Betty Makortoff” in your Gazette issue of Sept. 1. In searching for truth, I wovu'd like

to suggest, with all due respect to her outstanding journalism and photography, that some of the supposed facts she relies on, do warrant more r

For instance, in Mr. Soro- kin’s statement that “fortu- nately no one was’ injured or killed” by the bombing and burning of the Sons of Free- dom. I would like to remind them, that both fatal and serious injuries were received by several people.

In addition property |

damage and destruction—tre- mendous costs for both citizens and the government—the con- stant unrest and terror denying people peace of both mind and body—are these not to be con- sidered injuries? And how about the stigma so many of law-abiding, in-

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25th of September to October 12, Thank You

nocent Doukhobors have to carry because of the criminal and fanatical activities of the Sone 9 of Freedom:

If what Mr, nSorokin stated to her about their new realiza- tions and desire to achieve

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peace and harmony at last, and their promise to build a chris- tian life, if all of this is really true then I for one am delighted and give them my whole- hearted congratulations,

Such a venture is not an impossible task, for peace and harmony and to live according tothe teachings of Jesus Christ is attainable for all mankind, if man but chooses to pursue it.

There are many dedicated citizens, as well as

has received many well-deserv- ed compliments from its read- ers as well as numerous awards, The issue of Sept. 1 was an outstanding example of the high quality attained by the Gazette, especially in recent months.

Inaddition to the thorough coverage of news, sports, and community events and the popular editorial and column writing of Mr. Orris, a signifi- cant to the ‘in-

fanaticism, outbursts of vio- lence, and other erratic be- haviour?

What of the Hterally mil- lions of dollars of destroyed property both public and pri- vate, the burnt-out homes of innocent bystanders? (Remem- ber, the arsonists didn't always restrict themselves to burning their own homes.) How about the emotional and social strain, as well as actual expense, of

hour watches on

and the government, who have worked hard to resolye the un- rest and the terrorist problem and who have anticipated the fulfillment of such a promise. Especially those too who have suffered constantly from their fanatical escapades. In this respect, peace among the Sons of Freedom would be the happiness and peace of many. But promises are often just empty words, and one'finds:it just a little hard sometimes to remain gullible, in view of past injury and bitter disappoint- ments, so therefore it would take several years of “peace and harmony” to gain for them, reliance and trust. = For as long as threats and acts of violence persist, as long as hate literature that stems regularly from among their midst, continues to fill our mailboxes and waste baskets, their effort shall remain questionable and our anticipa- tion bitter-sweet. Very hopefully, Betty's as-

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pirations and her inspirations of the privileged afternoon will not be in vain. She is by no means alone in her search for truth and answers to problems of life and religion. There are others too who ponder and question, why? But in seeking for truth in life, one must not attempt to overlook the facts, nor to blind oneself to reality however severe.

earnest and deeds still speak louder than words, and practice is the best teacher. Yours hope- fully for peace and brother- hood, Mrs. C.F, Plotnikoff * 8 e 7

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We say the above in com- plete sincerity and also to better illustrate our-profound disappointment with the con- tent of the article on Stephen Sorokin obieh appeared in the past ism

Tat particular article by “Mrs. Makortoff is a very mis- leading piece of journalism, especially for those who are not acquainted with ‘the topic in question.

Mrs. Makortoff begins with the words: -“..I was driving down a road...when I came upon...” which seems to imply that her meeting was

uurely accidental. Come on,

BP Betty! It would have been much *

more honest for you to admit that you have met with S.S. Sorokin on previous occasions, and that members of your im- mediate family are close fol- lowers of his. Then, at least, the Gazette readers would have been in a much better position to evaluate the rest of your article,

But even then, unless they had previous sources of in- formation, they would still be very seriously misled. For example, the idea that “no one was injured or killed” as a result of the bombings and burnings of the Sons of Free- dom couldn't be farther from the truth. Surely, Mr. Sorokin and Betty could not have for- gotten about the teenaged boy who was torn apart by his own bomb; of his companion in the car who survived but was per- manently deafened by the blast; of another young man who was permanently blinded by his own bomb; of the woman who died of burns when gaso- line splashed on her, burst into flame during an episode of arson; of the young man who died in jail during a period of self-starvation?

These are examples of physical injuries. What of the dozens of young lives marred by years of prison terms, the broken families, the periods in

mental institutions, the psy-.

chological damage to children raised in an atmosphere of

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ment of two doves with wed- ding rings in their beaks under an arch which had adorned the bride's original wedding cake,

Mr. Hughes thanked the; many guests for having shared the happy. occasion with them,

The couple then cut the ,

cake and served the guests,

Safeway Talks Break Off Second Time

Talks in the province-wide , * Safeway labor dispute ended

Monday for the second time after nine days of mediation. + Clive McKes,

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ment was reached in some areas, it was not sufficient for the ~parties to reach a set- tlement. No further talks are sched- uled. The

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NOTICE Is hereby given that pursuant to Section 295° qQ of the Municipal Act, the City of Castlegar will be Annual Tax Sele of lands for delin=

Mr. McKee between Canada Safeway and the Retail, Whole- sale and Department Store Union started for the second time on Sept, 11.

Mr. McKee withdrew from the dispute Sépt. 7 after ex- ploratory talks failed to resolve issues that closed 93 retail stores.

A-key union demand in the dispute which has idled about 5,300 employees is for a clause allowing the right to strike over non-economic issues. The clause was contained in the previous contract but ruled illegal by the British Columbia Labor Rela- tions Board,

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SUPERVISORY MANAGEMENT.

These well proven and carefully designed workshops were attended by 260<supervisors from toca! organiza- ops were conducted by highly qualified instructors who gained addition- - in this i

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the Ani + quent taxes at the City Hall, 460 Columbia Avenue, N., Castlegar, commencing at 10:00 a.m. on Thur day, Seprember 30, 1976. The following is a list of properties within the Sy of Castlegar subject to Tax Sale as at September 20,

LEGAL DESCRIPTION STREET ADDRESS

lots 14 & 15, Block 22, : DL 181, Plan 650 216 4th Avenue, N.

Lot 16, DL 181, Plan 2491 668 3rd Avenue, N. Lot A D.L. 7180, Plan 7188 740 Chickadee Lane, N.

lot 56; D.L. 11974, Plan - 148} 8 69 Columbia Avenue, N.

Lot 1, D.L, 11974, Plan 2117, Save & Except Part in Red on Reference Plan 466451

Block 11, Except parca A Gee 1589888, D 4598, Plan ae

25 King Avenue, N.

1101 9th Avenue, S.

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WORKSHOP 1 — a) THE ROLE OF. THE SUPERVISOR IN MODERN ORGANIZATIONS b) PROBLEM SOLVING ‘AND DECISION pean A simplified ee, approach to cour-

and ses of action. Group participation plays 8 a "valuable part Fs this workshop!

WORKSHOP I] — COMMUNICATIONS: A dynamic approach to help improve your skills in communicating which covers: the communication process, ck, barriers to communication, per- ception and misperception and listening. Includes case studies and problem solving, films, and group participation.

WORKSHOP Il] — TIME A breakth h in ices which offers many valu- able ways to save time in relation to: setting ones planning, the use of charts, assigning tasks and duties, training, change and An exer.

cise in analyzing one's use of time is a 2 valuable part of ons ‘workshop.

WORKSHOP IV — = INTERVIEWING AND, COUNSELLING: An excitin

1g and innovative approach | which covers: type: iews, listening skills, use of eae Paraphrasing, Veflection of feeling, integration of skills and other aspects. Includes extensive use of video play back for self analysis,

WORKSHOP V — LEADERSHIP AND MOTIVATION: The latest factical 3 lication of human _behavi introduced in such areas as heeds, i ion, oe fensive behaviour, motivation and leaming, of leadersh ployees, qualities of a good leader and new dlrections in leadership and mange: ment. Includes interesting exercises and role playing.

FEE: $100.00 ($20.00 Per workshop)

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October 8, 15, 22, 29 and November 5, 1976

5:00 P.M,

NOTE; For those unable to attend on these dates, a second series will begin November 12, 1976,

. 1. The program is directed eed supervisors and potential near “who have had little or no previous training in these areas,

2. Canada Manpower may be able to assist employers who enroll employees in this program, by reim- bursing tuition fees involved. Employers should contact their nearest CMC for details. kero

3. The Department Chairman, Bruce Ketchum, and Harvey Gunn, Management Programs are anxious. va to help you learn more about the program. To do this please ial 365-7292 from Castlegar,

REGISTRATION: pneu be done early as class size is

limited.

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TO REGISTER MAIL THIS TO: Continuing Education Selkirk. College

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| _ Snauwaert-Killough Wedding Vows

—Gordon Read Photo

Beaitiful garden fowers decorated the Pentecostal Ta- bernacle in Castlegar for the July 17th wedding of Heather. May Killough and Joel Daniel Isaac Snauwaert, The bride is the daughter of Mr. and Mrs, John Clark Killough of Castle- gar and the groom is the son of Mr, and Mr. David Snauwaert of Brugge, Belgium,

Rev. Harold H. Graham of-

upholding a dove in each hand. Between the top and middle Uers, surrounded by white pil- lars, sat a smaller cherub in a fountain of cascading flowers and a miniature bride’ and groom. The flower decorations on the cake matched the pastel colors of the attendant's

Mr, Jack Killough Jr., was master of ceremonies. He read

ficlated at the Mrs, June Read and Michael and Joseph Killough, the bride's aister and brothers, sang “Lord Jesus of you I will Sing as I Journey,” accompanied by Hie, Evelyn Hunter. An. interp:

tive dance was done by ‘Miss Linda Read to the song, “The

Lord's My Shepherd” sung by a _

ilough,

Given in marriage

father, the bride was oe ae i a softly gathered three-tier, fullength white gown of

polyester organdy. The scooped neckline was accented with lace and a lace panel on the front bodice was trimmed with ribbon. ‘The sleeves were full- length sh ly. gathered

organd: at the cuff. The headdress was

Aims to Deepfreeze #|Dying Until Cures Found

Lawyers

court fe ig : terminally: il patients until

cures for’ their illnesses are found.

“We think we have Per fected ‘the’ procedure,” Robert Ettinger, founder ers Cryonics Society of Michigan. *

“The patients would be kept in a sort of limbo. When the disease is conquered, they would be revived and cured,”

“First, however, we shave to go to the courts to get because there is So

not illegal but neither

is it legal at the moment,” says Mr.: Ettinger. ©

“*Qur lawyers are working

n details of our case which

would obviously include the

‘argument that the new method

BS wouldn't constitute euthanasia.

“Our procedpre wouldn't mean being brought back from the dead—and that makes a difference to a lot of people.”

- The Cryonics Society has not tried its new technique with a living patient.

But it does have corpses of 25°men and women frozen at three storage facilities in New

m York, California and New Jer-

sey. -

Blood « of these corpses was replaced with an anti-freeze solution, Then the bodies were

placed in thermos-shaped cap- ‘sules cooled with’ a copstant flow of liquid nitrogen.

A new seein cryptor- :

jum” for storing the living patients would be built inva secret location on the Michigan Peninsula.

“We also hope to reduce the $50,000 per Patient it now costs,” said Mr. Eulinees, Sia former physies teach

The non-profit ‘Michigan Cryonics Society has 120 mem- bers who are interested in finding a method to. ensure immortality. They include doc- tors, scientists and lawyers.

About 20 similar groups, mostly in California, have mem- berate ranging from 10 to

eat we get the permission we ‘want, “it)would‘mean a revolution in the science of cryonics," ‘Mr, Ettinger said.

Our Fidld

By Our field is like a ball of hay I like to play in it all through

the day,

But when the beautiful star. filled

Catches the glimpse of ,my hazel-brown eye,

I put on my snow white wings And away I do fly.

with bows and pearls securing her three-tier, finger- tip-length veil.

. She carried a lovely. bou- quet of garden flowers, baby’s breath, lace ribbon and. ivy thade by a special friend, Evelyn Hunter. The bride also wore her mother's signet ring and a_ pearl pendent with matching earings, a graduation gift from her parents.

Maid-of-honor was Miss Peggy Read and bridesmaids were Miss Linda Read and Miss Tammy Read, all of Blueberry Creek.: Miss Cheryl Killough was flower girl. The maid-of- honor wore a pastel green three-tier, full tength gown of polyester, trimmed at the neck and cuffs, waistline and above each tier with delicate white lacé. The bridesmaids wore sii gowns in pastel yellow and pink, The flower girl's gown, matched the brides- + maids, in pastel. green, yellow

and pink. The attendant’s floral - “arrangements were over-the-

from Campbell River and Belgium. ‘The toast to the bride was pre- sented by her brother-in-law,

Volunteer Training

bap a honeymoon trip to Christina Lake, the bride wore a short white polyester dress with matching short Jacket of blue and white stripes, ‘ Wedding guests attended from Calgary, Port Coquitlam, Burnaby, Kamloops, Penticton, Revelatoke, Midway and Trail. Among the guests was Kootenay West MP Bob Brisco.

The newlyweds are now residing at 526 8th Ave. North, Castlegar, -

Activity Centre to Hold

“Caring people with time oe shee with others” is the ie requirement that the

bie of the Silver Birch Adult Activity Centre has in choosing volunteers for. their varied Programs, Norm Wolfe, the sorervion in charge of volun- teer training stated recently in opening the latest recruitment

campaign. “In order to provide our clients with a truly enriching program a great deal of one-to- one supervision and instruction is needed. Only through volun- «teers is this situation at all

possible. Volunteer work not only enriches the lives of the clients, but is eniching for the shure as well,” Mr. Wolfe

Application forms are a- vailable from’ the office of the Silver Birch Adult “Activity Centre at 211 Maple Street in Castlegar. A training program, for volunteers will be scheduled.

“as early in October as possible.

“Even if youare not sure of what kind of Fale you can play,” Mr. Wolfe concluded, “please, give us a call and we can explore the possibilities.”

Reward Posted to Aid Mr. Gordon Read of Blsberry . FBI Search for Cooper

» ‘The statute of limitations is ‘about to expire on D. B. Cooper and his $200,000 ran- som, and the FBI is willing to pay $5,000 to the first person to turn in one of the $20 bills he atole,

Mr. Cooper was the man

1971, by giving a stewardess a note claiming he had a bomb in his suitcase,

Cooper's inom was pea 000 from » and

he parachuted into a raging

thunderstorm from the jet’s rear door somewhere between Seattle rod Pena; Nov. - = - -

No one is sure Cooper survived the Sear and no tease

of him has ever been found:

‘The FBI, aware that stat- ute of limitations will expire at midnight Nov. 24, 1976, contin- ues the hunt. x

‘A plan has been devised try and recover the 10,000 $20 bills, if any have shown up,

The plan involves nation-

The FBI says, a that even if Cooper beats the

CASTLEGAR NEWS, Thursday, September 23, 1976

rap, he won't be able to go public, The IRS believes Coop- er owes back taxes amounting to $218,000, which includes interest and penalties, for his

AERO TAXI

Fast — Courteous — Reliable’ Phone 365-5700

Announcement C. C. Lenfesty C.6.A, RLA, wishes to announce the opening of a public accounting practice on Sept. 13, 1976, under the name of

C. C. Lenfesty & Co. Certified General Accountants 609 Columbia Ave. Castlegar, B.C. Phone 365-3011

rm bouquets ‘of garden”; 7%" 7

* flowers, lace ribbon and baby's breath, as were their hair

+ decorations.

+> Best man was Mr. Jacques Dillen_of Ootichenia, anele, of the groom. Sharing ‘the ush- ering duties were Mr. Michael Killough and Mr. Joseph ‘Kil. lough, both of Castlegar. Master Kevin Killough of Castlegar was the ring bearer. ‘The reception was held on the beautiful and spacious lawn at the home of Gordon and June’ Read in Blueberry Creek. Friends and relatives provided

BUSINESS PEOPLE

with singing and music. An evening reception was also held in the Catholic Centre, where music, singing

‘THE DEPARTMENT OF .ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT recommends business management

courses'as a means of improving management skills and capabilities.

The fallowing courses are being offered In Castlegi

by Selkirk College

at’ Selkirk College Campus

INTRODUCTION TO ACCOUNTING. INTERMEDIATE ACCOUNTING BASIC QUANTITATIVE METHODS MARKETING PRINCIPLES & PLANNING SMALL BUSINESS MANAGEMENT PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION BUSINESS & ECONOMICS OF THE FIRM COMPUTER CONCEPTS PERSONNEL FOR MANAGERS FINANCIAL ANALYSIS

"PURCHASING MANAGEMENT | BUSINESS COMMUNICATIONS PROBLEM SOLVING IN BUSINESS HUMAN RELATIONS iN ORGANIZATION SUPERVISORY. MANAGEMENT

“For course starting dates and further: information, ‘please. phone the Depart- ment of Business Administration, Selkirk College, at 365-7292.

| fhe: DEPARTMENT OF

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was enjoyed by all. ~The bride's mother was beautifully attired in a multi- colored . three-tier, _fulllength gown with shirred Empire -waist and delicately neckline. Red, yellow and white roses completed her ensemble.

The groom's aunt chose a delicately gathered three-tier, fullJength gown, with a square- necked lace bodice, in soft pastel shades. Her corsage was - of yellow and white roses.

The bride's table was at- tractively’ decorated” with flowers, crystal candle holders and pastel green tulle dotted with small bouquets of flowers.

The cake, which was made by the bride’s mother and sister’ and decorated by Lois Skublin, was topped with a cherub

New in Town? You'll find a

friend where you see this sign.

‘ Information Calf

1365-5638. or, 365-5542.

ott anti-inflation program is nearly one.

Vages vs prices.

be added or subtracted depending on whether a . group had kept up with or fallen behind cost of

year o|

program was announced last October 4 cna the Anti-Inflation Act was passed by. Parliament in December. The goal was to create @ fair and stable economic climate for all of us. Guidelines were established.for the conte of Prices, profits, incomes, dividends and professional fees. The federal govemment — - established a policy of spending restraint. The provinces are supporting ‘the program and are

applying guidelines in areas of provincial

concem such as rents.

living increases before the program began. More than half of the ac and sett! reported to the Anti-Inflation Board have been within these arithmetic guidelines. A gradual downward trend in wage increases has started and it should continue as more Canadians realize that because of declining inflation, settling

for less won't hurt them.

The real gains

The target of the first year of the

anti-inflation pi

before

program was to bring inflation down from a rate of 10.8% to 8% or less. This goal is going to be reached. Sill, mony Canadians are concerned about rising prices and may feel in fact that prices are rising faster than their family incomes. For most of us, this is not the case. The facts prove that since the start of the program most of us are better off than we were ”

salaries, on average, are

keeping ahead of prices.

Since the start of the anti-inflation program,

the average Canadian has actually improved his or her buying power This is because lower wage increases Glong with lower price increases have resulted in a gain in real incomes..The real gain is worked out by taking the actual increase in eamings and subtracting from it the effects of higher consumer prices. Real ii incomes are proba- bly the best measure of how we're doing, of how we can manage to pay our bills at home. By this spring; real incomes were up 3.6% over last year

Prices

Last year, sudden and frightening price increases were happening all too often. By October, 1975, Canadians had experienced 20 months of inflation of 10% or more. No one could be sure how for the dollar eamed one day ‘would stretch the next, The anti-inflation

: price increases have to

program was brought in to contro! the rise in. Prices, giving Canadians a better chance to Plan and live within their family budgets, Price increases have slowed down. By August, the annual rate of increase in the Consumer Price Index had dropped to 6.2%. Although some expected this month and next, the 8% target will surely be met

_ Wages

Controls on both prices and incomes ore part of the reason why the inflation rate is dropping. The co-operation and hard work of

The anti-inflation program has also helped to restrain increases in wages, salaries and other

incomes. The Guidelines on compensation allow

for a basic increase of 8%, plus 2% as a share . of national- ‘productivity sort Another 2% can

most Canadians is the rest of the story. We will soon be moving into the second year of the program, with a goal of lowering the inflation rate to 6% or less. Working ee we can

reach this target too.