CASTLEGAR NEWS, Thursday, Feb.:18, 1960: “Dou To His Honour the Lieutenant-| , Governor ‘of the Province of ‘tice, hearings were held at, Grand " Britigh Columbia, Fifth Interim Report of the! respective dates ‘appearing in the _ Justice A, E.| Notice. the Commissioner appointed to Inquire Into Hon, Mr, Lord, the Allotment of the Douk- hobor Lands in the Provin- ce of British Columbia. I hava the honour to submit dhe following ‘as a Fifth Interim Report: { On August Gth, 1959, there appeared ‘in the Nelson Daily News, the Grand Forks Gazette, the Castlegar News, and a few days later in “Iskra”, the official organ of the Union of Spiritual Communities of Christ, (the Or- thodox Doukhobors), published in Grand Forks, B.C., an advertise- ment over my signature, the full text of which appears below! NOTICE Public Hearings pursuant to the above Act ‘have been held at Nelson, Castlegar and Grand Forks to inquire into the dispos- al of the lands described gener- ally as the Doukhobor Lands in and around Nelson, Castlegar and Grand Forks, and The Said Doukhobor Lands have deen pursuant to Tecom- sf of the Cr i appointed under the above Act surveyed, subdivided, appraised end offered for sale in the first instance to members of the Doukhobor people only as and from October 9th, 1957, at prices sixty (60%) per cent of the ap- Braised values, and Evidence was given at the said public hearings prior to Oct- ober Sth, 1957, by the accredited spokesman for the Orthodox Doukhobor group to the effect ‘that its members would welcome the opportunity of purchasing the individual parcels of the ‘lands necessary for their proper living and accommodation, and For the leight hundred and ‘seventy-five (875) parcels of land so subdivided and offered for sale to members of the Doukhobor people only at sixty per cent (60%) of the appraised value since October 9th, 1957, have been up to date ninetéen “Pursuant to the above No- Forks and Nelson, B.C., on the chobor Lands: said, that the Land Settlement} Board was willing to: sell the land to individuals only, It was the feeling of the majority of his people, he said, that com- ‘o. The D munal of the land was tre most with their re- group: Mr. J. J, Veregin. He occupied the stand at Grand Forks for the best part of'a day, and, during ligious and traditional view- no-objection to what choice the individual might make in this re gard, Yet he suggested that a Public notice be given of future applications so that members: of his. society would be in a Rosi- tion, if they felt it necessary, to sontee an application, so ‘that points; that pur- chase of the land ie the next moat the last day of the at Nelson, submitted a reply to the evidence Given by other witnes- ses during the hearings, I also ackowledge with ate the evi- dence choic: with those traditional religious views; and that pur- of some People who might be affected might be pro- teated. He said his people looked upon those who have already as land chase was the least desirable choice, é The as to whether by:- Mr, John A, Hutton, the Secretary of School Dis- trict No, 12, which: inclu- des the Grand Forks area; Mr, Peter D, Arishenkoff, a member of the Ontho- dox Doukhobor group and @ resident of the Grand Forks area; Mr. D, W. Brookes, repre- senting the Castlegar Chamber of Commerce; The Castlegar Golf Socie- ty, Yrepresentations from which were made by its Counsel, Mr. Michael E, Moran; Mr. Charles H. King, Sec- retary-Treasurer of School District No, 9, which in- cludes the Castlegar area; Mr. Boyd C, Affleck in his personal capacity as a long dime resident of the Nelson area and a prac- tising’ engineer and land surveyor, and in the fur- ther. capacity as a spokes- man for the Nelson Cham- ber of Commerce; Mr, Neil T. Drewry' of the Provincial Government, Department of Finance, who is particularly well known and valued as an expert on the geographical aid agricultural aspect of the Doukhobér. Lands; ‘The Rev. Herbert R. Whit- more, Secretary of the Kootenay Presbytery - of the United Churely of Can- ada and representing that organization; The Rev. James M, Taylor, Chairman of the Advisory, (19) -valid applications only for Purehase and five (5) sales only negotiated, and The said Doukhobor lands rave been and are being in al- most all cases continuously oc- cupied by, menzbers of the Douk- hobor people at rents less than the economic rental value of the said lands or in many instances Committee of the Kooten- ay Presbytery for liaison the Land Settlement Board would sell the land to the Douk- hobor people only in indfvidual Parcels to individual Doukho- bors is answered in my Fourth Interim Report, which was pub- lished in full by the Press in the Kootenay and Grand Forks areas as follows:- 22nd August, 1957, Nelson Daily News 1957, Trail Daily Times August, 1957, Castle News of Castlegar August, 1957, Grand Forks Gazette 23rd August, 1957, “Iskra”. In that report under the heading “Sale of Land”, the following ap- pears as the total text under that heading:- “Applications should be invi- ted from the Doukhobor people in the first instance to purchase the lands in in- dividual parcels, on the gen- eral principle of one parcel to one person or married couple, Appropriate adjust- ments on this principle could be made for: group, applica- tions, and where exceptional circumstances may, in the opinion of the A i 22nd August, 22nd 22nd end as only looking efter their own selfish interests without gi- ving thought to older people and without giving the rest of the People an opportunity to make adjustments, This atlitude, to my! mind, Is with the | ace 54, line 23 to page 58, line Here appears the character istic lethargy of the Doukhobor people towards helping themsel- ves in their ‘dilemna over the Doukhobon Lands, In fairness it should. be said that there could be difficulties in obtaining ef- fective improvements. since the Land Settlement Board! had Allotment Inquiry. Act” 10, rent at all, in short as “squat . ters’. From the families on the would, in fact, be required to buy back his own im- provements, Shortly after ‘the’ advertise- ment of October Sth, 1957, was inserted, there were available at ie Gi Agents respec- effective I mean insurance which would not be cancelled promptly upon any, sizable number of bur- nings andlor explosions in the vi- cinity of insured buil on the By | th tively at Nelson and Grand Forks, the sales maps described in the advertisement, On these maps there appeared a number or each in both Doukhobor Lands, However, by the evidence referred to above, it is ovious that no effeotive at- tempt to solve the dif- Russian and English, One of these endorsements read as fol- jows: “A Leulty has been made by the It is to freedom of the individual to pur- chase as he pleases, It would leave the individual open to Presstire not to buy as he deems fit. The suggestion of giving a public notice of applications would lead to endless bickerings, $f of the and Bae that they are aware of the Possibilities of an insurance co- operative, but thave again done nothing about it (See Vol, I - transcript, Page 77, line 10 to line 29, Page 114, line 5 to line 15), and thee when the Union’ of continued lack of decisive action, At the present time if an appli- eation to purchase comes from other than an occupier the. lat- ter is given notice so that he may make representations to the Application Board, I have come to the eonelua- Jon that the first so-called “va- ‘gue uncertainty”, namely as to whether the Jands: could be pur- chased co-operatively” or com- munally is without merit, If there was, in fact, such a “vague uncertainty” it was self-induced and ‘without any reasonable ba- sis, and with:any diligence of in- quiry at all could ‘have. bean completely. resolved, Ir The “Vague Uncertainty” that ‘the spiritual! leader of the People, Pe- Board exist.” (The heavier type is not in the original Report.) Mr. Veregin expressed sur- ‘prise when he was reminded of this portion of my Report and it must have been appqrent, even on a cursory reading, that. the principle of group purchasing, regarded as so important to some of the Doukhobors, was given this -recognition, which, I should add, was endorsed by the Gov- ther Peter Veregin HI, on whom Russia, If he were stilk alive, the ter Veregin ILI, might still be alive in Russia, The submission here was that the Orthodox Doukhobor group was in doubt as to whe- the mantle of leadership. would have. fallen, was -still alive in submission went, some felt that no important decision touching ‘policy re land ownership should be made in his absence. It was in its of my with the Doukhobor peo- ple; The Rev, Theodor M. Kar- poff, the appointee of the United Church of Canada _ acting as liaison officer to the Doukhobor people. wi- bors of land entails as a _Drere- quisite, of course, the of a legal entity to take and hold title. There is in law no diffi- culty at all in the incor report. Group purchase by Doukho- hobor spokesman'that the sad fact of the death of Peter Vere- gin II in Russia hid been es- by the Orthodox Douk-. with cer- dainty ‘by correspondence . bet- sveen prtcies of the Union of ‘of Christ of. Christ built a yey eizeable Community Hall recently in the vicinity of Grand. Forks, they obtained in- surance ‘upon it and that it is still insured, It would seem that when: they want to do something in their own interest, they are able, by effective action, to dis- pel some of their own “vague uncertainties.”" IV. . The “Vague Uncertainty” as to what ‘would be the future activities of the so- called “Sons of Freedom”| sect, : \W' good deal of emphasis was Placed on thia problem by the Orthodox Doukhobors. The Sons should be made for the reduction of the ap- Praised value of the impro- vements by an amount cqual to the value of the buildings erected by the sin- Lands come a fair ecersie of Doukhbor children attending schools particularly the vicinities of Grand Fork: and Castlegar. These families, off course, are not bearing their. fair share of the loost of schooling) of their own children, as their residential lands are making no! direct contribution to school tax- ation, This situation justifies complaint from all land taxpay. ers’ in the particular school dis tricts, and is only one of several reasons why the Doukhoborg Lands shuld be returned to the] taxrolls as quickly as possible} As two years have clapsec{ since the Doukhobor Lands wert offered for sale to the Doukho: bors exclusively, at a most fa, ce acquisition of the land by the Land Settlement Board. How can one reasonably say on September 11th, 1959, that there was any, doubt as to what the si- tuation with reference to im- provements was, escapes me, One possible conclusion is that those entrusted with the task of study- ing the situation for, and provi- ding leadership to, the Orthodox D on. : subject of the acquisition of Doukhobor Lands had not taken ‘|the ‘trouble even to look over any one of the sales maps, The endorsement quoted above ap- pears on every sales map. In conclusion, on the subject of the apparent Jack of interest on the part of the Doukhobors to purchasq ‘the jtands, I believe there is a definite feeling ap- of Freedom ed problem has existed particularly in the Kootenays and Grand Forks area for many years, and if the bulk D towards a solution of the problem, I feel of ithe period of time which has of the namely the Orthodox group, pro- ‘poses to wait until this minority problem is settled before making ired since the lands were offered for sale, the almost com- plete lack of substance in the various Points raised as “vague any move to the present vei land I ’, ahd the failure of decades may pass (by in the wait- ing. I say this notwithstanding the Freedomites’ recent agree- ment to send their children to school, This appears t6 be a great .step forward on the part of an the De ask for justified in this belief because]. Price, and as in that time the response to what, if I may say so, was a most generous offer, has been virtual ly’ nH, one must consider whad action should be taken. The aly ternatives are: 1 - To leave the situation 8: it is, in the hopes thai there will be a radica! change of attitude on th@ part of ithe Doulhobo J z People and a ch iy ‘The Anglican Church Sexagesima Sunday — Feb, 21 ‘ Castlegar: 9 a.m. Holy Communion 11 a.m, Matins * * Kinnaird: 8 am. Holy Communion — 7.30 p.m, Evensong Junior Confirmation Class on Tuesdays after school in St. Alban’s Church GLASSIFIED AD RATES Classified ads are char- ‘ged for. at the rate of five cents per word or figure per. Insertion, ‘ Mintmunt ited "a stenographers’ note ‘astlegar News, Trade-Ins Accepted 1806 Bay, Trail Phone 445 FURNITURE MOVING Long Distance | Anywhere —— furtine PHONE C PIIONE 2021 2521 — rail ‘191 “Nelson 1471 4 UNITED TRUCKING somevice of. the Doukhobor Lands is most A unsatisfactory, because many are Leave Tobe ‘Wharf ‘= 20.00' a.m. Monday. 700 am, Tuesday. ~ Arrive Robson Wharf 1.00 p.m, Tuesday. Leave. Robson Whart - 10.00 a.m, ‘Thursday, | Arrive Edgewood 4.00 p.m. Thursday. paying their rents, and others, actual neighbors in the same community, are refusing to “| payvany ‘rent-at-all. Apart from ¢he general unhealthiness of. this .| situation;: it is also an inevitable and ynot unjustified source. of comphint,’on’ the. part of the considerable ,number. of Doukho- hor. ’people: who ‘have painstak- ingly kept:.up their rent .pay- ments, I:understand that in the as any other tenant or, occupier in such circumstances and evic- tion proceedings instituted. “In the évent’of a subsequent sale to other than a tenant, I recom- miend 'that it should be task of the: Land Settlement Board to give possession free. of any. “oc cupation, That is’ whet I meant when I stated, during the course ‘of’ the shearing that the Land Settlement Board ‘should | give peaceful possession to all pur] agreed ito do so should tbe, treated | img stated that there would te no ob- jection from Orthodox. members to Sons of Freedom being in their midst if the latter were paying rent. He felt that if they] | did pay rent t they would no long- If thts Fifth Interim Report meets - with :your. Honotr’s ap- proval, I recommend that it be published’ “in- full text.’ in7the newspapers of the area, as was done in dhe case. of ‘my,’Fourth er be regarded as Freedomites.| CASTLE THEATRE Tr HURS. — FRI. — SAT: further asked ‘if the Orthodox Doukho- bors had made any internal pre- paration for fhe setting | up of an y, in short, the evel: entity necessary for communal purchase &nd op- eration. Again, the answer was inthe negative, No internal pre-| penation had been made. It is al- so significant that during the last twenty years. since fore- ‘closure ‘af the Jands, no serious effort has been made to Tesume a communal way of. living, It was /stressed time and egain | by ‘Mr. Veregin that his ata vention held in 1954 went on record to the effect that there should be com- plete freedom of-action or choice for the individual ito do as he pleases whether to on} to cane fire and explosion up “to 50% of total value on re- sidence and buildings situa- ted on: ‘Doukhobor Lands, insurers would no doubt assist in this, ms a early in the. res of the Sons of Freedom in the area of their so-called mi- gration to Russia that there was not the slightest chance of that migration taking place at any future time, Furthermore, anyone with a specialized knowledge of the Sons of Freedom problem, such. as the O; have, could not have sald to re- ter i with me, I would be glad to make Some sugges- tions, (b) Interim Report, published in the |’ Nelson ‘Daily News, Trail . Daily Times, Castlegar News, Grand Forks Gazette and ‘Iskra’ Grand Forks. It is. my view that: publica 3 tion of this Report, fortified . by. its adoption. as Government po- licy, would ‘be of ‘some assistance to the miany, Orthodox .Doukho-y hor “people,” who ‘are. acting’, in coraparatively good faith, but are|” having a*very difficult time ma- king. up their minds among themecives as to’ what ‘action they should take -on the jand question. All. of which is respectfully = submitt a] Arthur E, “Lord, Commiissigner, “Doukhobor.; Lands Allotment ve “S" Inquiry ; ‘Act."|. at 60% of the assessed ne ter the expiry of that date, th _ Leave Edgewood 2 7.00 a.m, Friday. . Arrive Robson Wharf 100 p.m.: Friday. '. chasers. In - order to. administer an equitable rent collection plan, in short a. plan of. collecting from all occupants, - additional help will have to be supplied to the ‘present’ Land “Inspector, ; Darion| ‘Spielmans, gt “Nelson, B.C. ‘To expect him alone to inaugurate and carry outa “rental policy. of the kind ‘I’ have recommended wouki’ be.to expect the impos- sible, The ature and extent of that’ mal help is an admin- istrative matter which should be worked out by the Land Set- main, the. delmqiients are. mem~- bers of thé Song of Freedom sect. e I. do not: here. ‘concern’ myself with, 19 sort out a8 ~| internal proportions ‘ of, Sons *o! “| Freedom and Orthodox Douttho: brs'as I do not. think ‘it is ne- cessary. or helpful in the task “| with which I am at the. moment ‘\charged,.In my. view, it is ‘absol- utely essential’ that rent be ‘paid =| by the occupants of all the Donuk-, : |hobor Lands, as may ‘be set. out} ‘|by the Land Board, with the exception for the .mo- ment at least of the occupants ¢ at Krestova. This may seem tobe tlement Board. lah inconsistency in the eppHea-|\ ‘I make no recommendations tion' of a‘principle. It is. But. | as to*ttie standards that might be make ‘this recommendation @s-alused to arrive at an economical rental value of the lands, as this practical knowledge|ma'ter can ‘est be left in’ the ‘| that @t- the’ present time . ‘here capable hands of the Land Set- must ibe provided somewhere , a! tlement Board itself. I believe ‘ ey \ flecting the full market value’of the said lands, and The leasing .of such of the lands as may from time to time remain unsold at rentals in keeping with the full economic rental value as'may be set by the Land Settlement Board of British Columbia, July aint 1959 lack of interest of the Doukho- bor people in the offer of the Land Settlement Board to sell to them the Di Lands at very favourable prices, On this subject the burden of the suomission by the Orthodox Doukhobors was that since Oc- tober 9th, 1957, when the land was first: formally offered. for sale to the. Doukhobor people, they had been subject 1d “vague uncertainties", which I propose to list as they appeared, in the submission ‘of the Onthodox “at the WALDIE LUMBER & BUILDING SUPPLY LTD.’ We can. supply all your’ building needs, Estimates gledly. given. * Phone 7112 . HOME BUILDING SUPPLIES | Phone 8181 - Kinnaird, B.C, . LUMBER — PAINT PLUMBING AND . ELECTRICAL SUPPLIES ° at lands should be made sveliany to the general ube ineluidin, the Di at prices TOF tend, mm andlor reflecting the full marked’ value of the said lands,- t {In view of my recomme tions herein respecting collectio} of, rentals, an@ a more vigoroull iand, sales ‘programme, some tim should elapse before closing off the present special « privieges | the Doulhobors to purchaseyth lands in question, The “2000 of crops in the Spring is a fas tor in setting sucha time ‘int esa disturbance’ ‘of occupation a sowing or harvest time woul work 2 ha ip on those con! cerned. I’ urge most strongly tha . your Gov set such a timd yee stirhate iia limit’ at the earliest’ date ‘ co - : ra \ sistent withthe carrying ‘out o : pgs on. page seven) Other dispositions of the said lands, sale thereof. to others than those of the faith, and at prices estab- lished by public tender and reflecting the full market value of the said Tand, ..1 propose’ now to deal with the ‘second question’ for consid- eration to the ‘Notice of Hearings. It is set out in full in the heading wove. : For approximately twenty | years ‘past,..Doukhobor Lands|;+ have not been on. the taxrdls, end have been i by D in ‘some instances at ‘a rent. set.and coll by the owner, the Land Settlement Board, but in many other ee ces by Di Ornamental Tron Work: es” Satisfaction Guaranteed." “LESY- BEOTHERS~ Phone S476 SS No, Cas, * arantee were given.” (the heavier type is not in the or- dginal Report.) In this regard the Ort Doukhobor spokesman was asked in eross examination as to what|cognize quickly. that for all prac- enquiries, if any, had been made} tical purposes of formulating po- ‘|to LI licy, the to insurance ‘was..obtainable at rea-/ Russia would not take place. sonable. rates, There ,was cited| This was virtually admitted in the single ‘fngtance of the Com- the evidence, (Sec Vol,‘I.- tran- munity Hall at Appledale, on) script, Pege 65, line 26.to Page which three “insurance applica-| 66, line 6), I therefore find that tions had Been’:turned down, but] there is no real merit in this 5o- ‘dtherwise’ no ‘businesslike effort! cailed ‘ ‘wage. the. or vie ‘The Vague Uncertainty” an ‘basis or in a co-op-| otherwise. of. insurance from Y that: joukhobor pur- erative or communal -way,“and| commercial: insurers. had been chasing | r any ‘of Jana that the would have made, (Seé :Vol, I~ transcript, on which he.bad erected ‘pUTcH MAW _ — BAMERY Ee MON. - TUES. - WED. ~ DOUBLE FEATURE, ‘oth Tels its Stoiy n.2 tig Fats! SMITH BOAEDING: : . We attach “Dinkle” Nickle’ é Bim Heels on ladies’ shoes _ _ " CASTLEGAR, _ “The Home. For. Your’ Pet 1, When You're As ", , Accommodation for Cats * Arthur E, Lord Commissioner, Note: Written. from | D interested persons unahle to attend ‘the above hear- ings should be sent to the Government Agent, Nel- son, B.O., and will be sub- mitted by him to the Com- missioner during the cour- “se of the said Public Hear- snga.’ ‘hearings and as they in cross-exemination at “that time. L MARLANE GRILL Open. 8 a.m ‘to 9.30 pm.- Ne The“ “Vague Uncertainty” “Just. another.’ Place: to as to whether they. could purchase the land : elther B eat, * But the-place to eat another, | LZHONE S881 Vancower, BY 16th November, 1059 ly or communally, ‘They’ felt, their