The Castlegar Sun

Wednesday, March 13, 1991

Where you work: Eastgate Gardens
What you do there: Hostess
Castlegar likes: The people
Castlegar dislikes: The smell

Best kept Castlegar secret: Hi-lite
Pet: Dog - Sammy
What would you rather be doing? Travelling

Vehicle: Toyota

Society not yet geared to accessibility for all

By FRANK ISERNIA
Sun staff writer»: |

‘needed wider bathroom doors,

Why the need for bigger and

A group of about fifty planners,
developers and building inspectors
from as far away as Golden, B.C,
listened to sp ing the

parking stalls,”

“The thing that ‘stuck out the
most was the lack of under-
standing. That's why this kind of

need for more public awareness in
areas of accessibility during the
designing and construction of new
buildings. }

All those who attended the one-
day workshop last Friday praised
the meeting, and agreed that it

is so important. It is

;
attitudinal. It is getting across to.

these people why we need certain
things, because they question it all
the time.” “
Amstom said he shocked quite a
few of the listeners when he said
that there those who have to stretch

ry many
about accessibility as well as
providing them with an increased
of probl

the disabled population. Organizers
of the workshop were very pleased
with the attendance and the interest
shown by the public,

Ed Amstom, one of the keynote
speakers, and the founder and
Executive Director of Kamloops’
People in Motion, said that he was
impressed with the tumout. *

“Although everyone was quite
tentative, the interest was certainly
there, We discussed a lot of
technical things, and lots of
questions were asked,” he said.
“Everybody wanted to know the
whys and the whos. Who needs
accessibility.”

He couldn’t emphasise strongly
enough how many questions were
of the why nature,

Asked what be felt the meeting
accomplished, Amston replied that
he hoped Friday's meeting was an
attitude adjustment.

“Just from the looks I got, I’m
sure that it was. One fellow, in
Particular, be didn’t know why, he
didn't know certain things about
the disabled community, why we

bathroom duties with the door
wide open,

“I could see it kind of shook
them up.I'’ve gone into places that
people have invited me to, and was
not able to get into because of
where the furniture was’ placed or
the doors were not wide enough.”

Amston said that those are the
simpler things to remedy, but in
structural situations there’s not
much that can be done about it. He
said some houses are just

- impossible and must be tom down

and rebuilt.

“It's a real shame that society
builds structures in the way that we
do, there are a lot of people who
end up disabled in their latter life
who can’t even go out and visit
their relatives and friends because
they can’t get into the houseIt’s a
pretty lonely feeling, when you've
been able to roam around and do
what you want, and all of a sudden
you can’t do it anymore, It’s tough.
I just hope that today we got the
message across to people that we
are part of society.All disabled
people should be thought of as
normal people in society. We're
people, we are not the disabled and

out in order to do their .

we are not the handicapped, we are °

people who have a disability.”
Keynote speaker ‘and B.C.

Building Standards Officer, Bob

Th don the

access to that floor. He added that
the courts would not mandate how

the handicapped person ‘gets there, .
just as long as the access is made '

meeting by stating that what he is
seeing especially in a place like
Castlegar, and other outlying small

. communities is a really up front

active role by the community in
making their buildi

“The building code standards

require all-new’ buildings to’
provide accessibility, but what is.

not there is legislation to enforce
the sort of infrastructures that
the building, such as

to everyone, tt,
“I think smaller

roads, grounds, public parks, etc.”
isti i don’t have

do so more so than some of the

legislation

any retroactive
iring the building to provide

major cities, maybe. b its
more visible.

“But, I think this meeting is the
first one that I know about that has
been held outside the Lower

i |. There have been two or
three fairly large ones done in
Vancouver and the attendance has
been super. People have come
from places such as Castlegar and
other cities and towns. I hope this
trend continues because I think
what it does, is it gets people like
me out to a whole bunch of people
at once to tell them what’s going
on”

He alluded to the fact that there

accessibility, but any renovations
made must conform to current
standards where it is practical, But
in the U.S., all federal buildings
must be handicapped accessible.

“We are starting to see it here in
Canada, but the province hasn’t
gone that route yet. I’m not sure
that it will. I¢ will take lobbying
from the public, and if the right
groups put pressure on the
government, they'll eventually get
their way.”

Castlegar Building Inspector
Phil Markin said that the meeting
was most informative and that

are many t
designers, and building inspectors
who don’t know that there are
people in government who are
available to answer their questions.
He confirmed that there is a
reluctance on the part of these
people to phone or contact

_ Victoria.

“The building code as it stands
now requires access to all places
within the building, but there are
some exemptions such as
pressrooms, in, say, your industry,
where handicap people cannot get
accessibility. But anywhere the
public has visiting rights must

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Grand Forks.

Boxtart said he was excited
about coming to Castlegar.

“I think everybody will be
happy about us being there,” he
said. “We're different. We're not
your run-of-the-mill supermarket.
The difference can be seen in our

‘olir thésstige, ‘Andloiit’”

Prices.”

to the standards.
However, the code does exempt
small buildings in some cases, but

‘that is strictly an economic

while his dep has been
enforcing the building code in
terms of accessibility, he would
like to see the code enforced over
and above the current standards,

“I'd like to see Castlegar go
over and above what the building
code says because the code is only
of minimum standard”

Nelson Building Inspector,
Bernie Zimmer said that the
meeting heightened his awareness
of inaccessibility.

“Because of Nelson's hillsides
it is difficult to build in terms of
accessibility, but we've been kind
of whittling away at different
projects in order to make them
accessible to all.”

Zimmer added that he felt most
people perceived the disabled as a

which will pre ly

Originally i d as the
Twin Rivers Mall, Reid noted that
it bad been decided that, although
Twin Rivers had_ historical
meaning in the area, it was not
really a suitable name for the new
complex.

“We felt Southcentre Mall had
an easier sound and was more
indicative of the location,” said
Réid, bes bes ‘

& Arcade

Continued from 1A

statement.

“Our officers are very busy. We
cover an area of over 100 square
miles, but we try a respond as
immediate as manpower allows,”
explained Hall. “After normal
hours we have only two members
on duty, compounded by the fact
we get all our calls relayed to us
from Nelson, and depending on
where our Officers are at the time
of the call we respond
immediately. “But we can't
just drop what we are doing to
respond unless it is an
emergency.We don’t have the

er.”

“We can’t have our officers
parked in front of the arcade all

Hall suggested that citizens have
to do something to help
themselves, citing that they must
not be scared to go into court to
ensure that these offenders can be

“If you see someone breaking
the law, call the police, when they
arrive walk out with the officer(s)
and point the culprit(s) out,”

ised Hall.

The arcade owner doesn’t

believe that a proposal by
Alderman Duff that suggests a

shut his doors, the bad apples
would surface elsewhere, and the

igh! watch be

1 éd will be
because of the way the Criminal
Code reads.

“My understanding is that in
order to prosecute, you peed more
than just a name, you need to be
able to identify those charged, and
that is going to be a tough aut to
cwack. Most of these people around
bere don't know the kids, and after
a while a face is just a face. They
all look alike.”

“Kids now today have no
respect for the police. When they
drive by the kids just yell and
laugh at them.”

Zaitsoff believes that society
should bring the old system back
suggesting that these trouble
makers should get a taste of the
old ear twisting ishment.

“In the larger cities, these
troublemakers don’t dare step too
far out of line with the police or
else,” he explained. “Most of the
kids who use my facilities are
good natured kids. Sure there are
some bad apples in the barrel, but
Wizard's Palace has nothing to do
with it.”

Zaitsoff believes that even if he

P would

“If this place wasn't here for
the kids, the problems would
probably increase because our kids

“would have nothing better to do.”

Rumors that the arcade is being
forced to shut its doors have the
kids upset and very defiant.

One of the regulars, who wished
not to be named, said that a
petition would be circulated if that
occurred.

“There are a couple of people
who are determined to shut me
down,” confirmed Zaitsoff, “but
I'll be dammed if I roll over and
die on this issue.”

“To make matters worse,”
remarked Zaitsoff, “ city council
sent me a letter dictating how I
should run my business. They
gave me an April deadline to paint
my outside walls, install cement
picnic tables out back and to
remove the bush just outside my
walls.”

“First of all I don’t own the lot
outside my business, and
obviously council erred because
even as I speak city crews are
clearing the brush, secondly, there
is no place that I can install these

cement picnic tables, and even if I
could, that would open up another
can of worms. How can I justify
upsetting my neighbors with all
the noise that this would create,
and how can I block off the alley?”
he asked.

Zaitsoff also disagreed with the

letter’s suggestion of painting the -

outside wall by the April deadline.
“ Tt ludicrous,” he stated. “ Who
paints in April, the wall wouldn't
be dry enough to do a thorough
and complete job.”
“Why doesn’t the city worry
about their own back yard before
telling me to clean up my

Zaitsoff was alluding to the fact
that the street outside his business
is in serious need of repairs.

“The area surrounding this
section of downtown is a mess.
Seniors and other people wishing
to cross the street are forced to
walk in the mud.Why don’t they
mend their own fences before
pointing out my business flaws? I
phoned Alderman Duff to come
down and talk to me, but he never
showed up. I’ve never met or seen
the man. But, rest assured I am
looking forward to the meeting, I
will be there,” be promised.

@ Co-generation

Continued from 1A

willingly support. However, Hydro
is willing to pay a 15 per cent
premium for a woodwaste project.”

Should such a project become a
reality, a 30 mega watt plant would
cost approximately $80 million to
build and take 18 to 24 months to
complete, encompassing 180 man
years of labor. At the peak of the
construction period there would be
200 people on the site. When
finished, the operating plant would
employ 25 - 30 persons.

True co-generation, said NW
Bnergy’s project development
manager Steve Davis, is when two
things, steam and electricity, are
produced from a power plant. The
steam is then used in an industri:

all of the steam will be used to
create more electricity.

Davis added that the NW
Energy Corporation was the joint

to sell power to B.C. Hydro
include quality of the power and
reliability,” he i

who want to build. And we need a
measure of support within a

Fairbairn concurred.

“The forest industry is cyclical.
When we enter into a contract with
B.C,. Hydro or West Kootenay
Power, the only two buyers of

Washington Water Power; and
Tondu Energy. Systems of.
Hi Texas. Each ip
added to the sum total of NW
Energy’s capabilities said Davis.

in the p , whetber
it's woodwaste, natural gas, or
coal, they have got to know that in
20 years there will still be a
supply. The financial institutions
also need ‘assurance, Particularly

There are a lot of
Political impacts. Everybody is
interested.

“I think Castlegar may be a
Place where it could work. People
are well informed, there is already
money being spent on the roads,
and there is a problem in that a fair
bit of woodwaste is being
landfilled or incinerated. Why.
waste it when you can add value to
in?” :

“WP Energy brings experi 5

ject, they already operate :

a co-generating plant in Kettle
Falls, Washington. Tondu is an,
American developer ..;\ of;

Process. In Williams Lake, where
the company is about to begin
construction of a $150 million co-
generation plant next month, the

plant will only produce electricity,

? power with
over 10 years in the b' BC.)

for long: fii ig," said
Fairbairn. “But it is feasible. We
have been successful in developing
a project in Williams Lake. It takes
a long time and alot of money.
There-are road problems, site

Fairbai: added that his
company would try to benefit from
what happened to Cel gar.

“Over the next: couple: of
months we will work more closely
with ‘the ‘sawmills ‘and ‘the

is just starting, so they can provide

the expertise. Inland Pacific knows...

with sawmills, the project review
process, division or lack, of

division:) ina; community,

the province well ‘and can provide ;.”/

natural gas support. The 1

ition between

people,” he said. “We

_.would haveongoing strong public

consultation, right from coming

outiof the chute.’ We ‘all learned

one day.”

The courts, explained Thomp-
son will basically force the issue
by saying that someone in a
wheelchair has every right as
someone who walks, and just
because there is no elevator,
doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have

person toa

“That’s not the case, he said,
there are people with multiple
sclerosis, there are the seniors,
those who are hearing impaired,
and many others who fall into the
same category as disabled. They
all require their needs looked at in
terms of accessibility. "

‘City Hall

Continued from 1A

vote on the issues.
i did point out h 4

that anyone wanting to attend city
council or visit the second story of
the building will receive all the
help required to get up there.

\take- in ‘the :tin'

Warriors wow, ‘em

= A.crowd of about 200 was on hand Friday

of special events:
h festival’ held’at

d by New
best

from the Celgar

Wednesday, March 13, 1991

The Castlegar Sun

Council Briefs
by Frank Isernia

The provincial government could Ieam a lesson from the municipal-
ities on how to manage their finances says Castlegar City Council.

‘The remark comes on the heels of a provincial request for munici-
Palitics to freeze taxes; except where cost increases are unavoidable
due to previously negotiated contracts, or the actions of senior levels of
ge he p jal ge has indi that if munici-
Palities don’t honor the guidlines, they may be required to do so.

Castlegar's provisional budget docs not include any increase in rev-
enue from resi taxes thereby allowing the City to adhere to the
provincial guidelines,

oe
In other City Council news:

Council passed a recommendation that it advise Regional District of
Columbia Kootenay that it has no objection to the Temporary Permit
i The

Society in trouble

By FRANK ISERNIA

their b through a booth

Sun staff writer
A heavily b is

campaign at last year's Trade Fair.
“We've only managed to sign up
nine new over the last

and District Heritage Society is
desperately looking for an answer,
any answer, that will keep the soci-
ety from being forced. to disband
said society president Sherrel
Koreen.

“Although the outcome looks
dismal, we aren’t out of it yet," she
said,

“We've been operating and
maintaining Zuckerberg Island and
Castlegar Rail Station for three
years and in no way are we giving
up. We need more interested peo-
ple to join our society. That's it in
a nutshell. The problem with most
of our 68 members is that most of
them are spreading themselves too
thin. They have too many other
obligations to tend to.This leaves
only a handful of four or five that
can

requested by Williamson Paving Ltd. subject to certain
ditions are that the obtain app: from the City of
Castlegar for the location and extent of any access driveway, and that
RDCK collect, on behalf of the City a fee to be applied toward part of
the costs of rehabilitation of Arrow Lakes Drive.
But the there will be some unfavorable impacts caused by approv-
ing this permit. The most significant impact on the City of Castlegar, is
the potential for damage to Arrow Lakes Drive. The road will require
rehabilitation entailing ip ion, possibly, or an
asphalt lift. This road will be eligible for a 50 per cent provincial grant
as part of the City’s Major Street Network. The concem is how to col-
lect the remaining cost.

oe

A for a public process be
to obtain views on options available to address the future of Kinnaird
Hall was approved Monday.

Council was told that Kinnaird Hall is in a state of deterioration.
The kitchen does not meet Public Health requirements, and the build-
ing does not meet a number of Fire/Building Code regulations. General
usage of the hall was reduced to two functions in 1990, while several

ity groups have established the hall as a permanent base of
operations.

The objective of the recommendation is to improve the economics

of the hall while itasa facility.

“What we need is some new
blood in our society,” she said,
adding that they had tried boosting

three years, I wish I knew what the
answer is. I'm nearing the end of
my two-year term as president. A
new executive must be elected in
May.”

But, there are no current candi-
dates for the i iti

OUTLOOK:
The forecast for Wednesday;

‘} A mixture of cloud and sunshine.
Highs near 7 with overnight lows
near -3. The outlook for Thursday
and Friday calls for remaining unsettled weather. Cloud
and showers of mixed rain and snow. Temperatures will

be at or near normal.

WEATHER

and that could spell certain doom
for the society. If no one steps for-
ward, and the society is forced to
disband, both heritage sites would
become the responsibility of the
city, and the society would once
again become an advisory commit-
tee to the city,

Koreen, in a telephone interview
with the Castlegar Sun, said that
she is not happy with the media
reporting that the city might have
to sell off the island and the sta-
tion as a last resort.

“The possibility of having to sell
both sites as a last resort shouldn't
have been adressed at all,” she
Stated,

Profession dedicated to service

By FRANK ISERNIA
Sun staff writer

This is Social Work Week in
Canada, a week that highlights a
very special profession dedicated
to serving the welfare of all people.

Often mali, mis-

Ketchum.”"We are highly trained
Professionals."

“Although the people who are
doing protection and Child welfare
work are called social workers,
about 60 per cent are not trained as
social workers, They are just people

understood, and at times, even
unloved, it is a profession that
embmices social values and whose
mandate is aimed at making people
their top priority.

A social worker is defined as
someone who is trained to facilitate
intemal personal development or
assist people to cope with their
social enviroment.

“We are not just financial assis-
tant workers that administer funds
at welfare offices,” said Selkirk
Social Work instructor Nancy

ployed to carry out the role,”
said fellow instructor and social
worker, Phyllis Nash,

“The importance of this week is
to give social workers that recogni-
tion that we are highly trained pro-

i that do ing called

Temperature: Max/Date

10.7/ 8
Precipitation: — Rain

3.0 cm.

Sunshine: Number of

Hours

23.2

A LOOK BACK AT THE PAST WEEK:
Min/Date

49/8 18

Snow

5.0 cm.

Mean

Tota! Normal

Total
8.6 om. 13.2 cm.

Normal Number
of Hours

26.2.

Fairly low freezing levels and light snowfalls through
the week kept the local sk-hills happy. An above nor-
mal snowpack is being maintained at many mountain
stations. Ed. note: I'm confused! When do we put our
winter clothes away and bring the spring stuff out? On
any given day I can either ski or arden. Tomorrow?

Forecast provided by
The South - East Interior Weather Office
at Castlegar, B.C.

All registered social workers have
a university education, most with
B.S.W. or M.S.W. degrees, and all

a “generals practice",which means
social workers can play a variety of
Toles in the community,” affirmed
Social Service graduate, and
Selkirk social worker student,
Rhonda Schmidt.

A variety of services are pro-
vided through established public

workers belong to the
British Columbia Association of
Social Workers which sets stan-
dards of practice, enforces its code
of ethics, and has been instrumen-
tal in bringing social issues to the
attention of policy-makers, and
creating a Social Workers Act.

“ Here in Castlegar, we are see-

increasing due to public need. For
example, at Mental Health, social
workers Martha Fish and Phyllis
Gairns share their duties with
Trail. They do therapy, individual
and family assessments, deal with
acute and chronic psychiatric dis-
orders and provide health services
to the elderly,” said Ketchum.

“Social work is an exciting pro-
fession with all kinds of possible
job opportunities. "

agencies as well as private practice.

ing our professional services

FEEDBACK

By NANCY LINGLEY
Sun Editor

times through funding, such as the sheep,transplant they did at Deer Park,
and i it

Approximately 25 percent of the hunting in this province is done in
the Kootenays. In this area, there is access to a large variety of game
species including black bear, grizzly bear, moose, elk, and both white-
tail and mule deer. The persons most active in enhancing the habitat so
that these species may not only survive, but thrive, are the various
wildlife associations in our region. Castlegar Sun editor Nancy Lingley
spoke with Ron Milton, vice-president of the Slocan Valley Wildlife
A iation about his ization’s il to wildlife enhance-

ment.
ee

The Slocan Valley Wildlife Association 1986 Chapter came about five
years ago when Ron and friend John Braun, a man who has hunted and
trapped the valley for over 50 years, got together, Club membership has
been as high as 93, but averages 35-40 per year. Right now the member-
ship list stands at around 50. The club's territory takes in Management
Units 4-16 and 4-17, which is roughly 32 miles in either direction on both
sides of the valley, extending from South Slocan to Crescent Valley.

“Our main interest is to maintain a healthy population of fish and
wildlife. When we started up again in 1986, the club had been defunct for
four or five years. It had been an on-again, off-again thing since Probably
the early 60s. So John and I got together with other friends to try to recon-
struct the club. We just bad a public meeting by phone with people we
knew in the valley that were interested.

“As a club, we help other clubs, such as Nelson and Castlegar. Some-

‘ Shrouded over by fog, Dean's Peak, on the east side of *
: Highway 6 at Passmore, is the release site for the

: Rocky Mountain goats transplanted from the East |...
‘Kootenays.

GUN STAFF PHOTOS / Nency Lingey

with hand. labor, like helping with the trapping of
sheep.”

In the beginning, the projects conducted by the Slocan Valley Wildlife
Association were, by necessity, on the smaller side.

“Because the club lacked funding, our earlier projects were small. Our
very first project, in the spring of ‘87, was building osprey nesting plat-
forms up on Little Slocan Lakes. We had to ort everything up by
boat, climb trees, knock the top of the tree off at 50 or 60 feet and put big
wood and steel platforms up there. It was fun.

“Then we monitored them. One pair of osprey continues to use them
now, The geese compete with the osprey for them. Either way, they’re
being used.

“In 1987, we also started a salt project that we still do yearly. We estab-
lish a saltlick strategically where we know the deer winter, at least 300 to
400 yards off of the road,

“We pack the salt up on salt boards and find the right soil conditions to
put it on. Sometimes we just enhance a natural saltlick. We think this does
Prevent roadkill in the winter. Last year we didn’t do as many and there
‘were more roadkills,”

Fish habitat is also important to the club.

“We're in constant contact with the fisheries department of Fish and
Wildlife to get fish enhancement on Slocan Lake and the creeks. As a
result, the club did a project on Hird Creek. We cleaned up all the slit, rot-
ten logs, and old stuff that people who had used the creck for a dump in the
30s left. We spent $300 in club funds and hired a truck to haul two sizes of
Pea gravel to put in the creek to make terraced pools. We put about 160
man hours into the project.

“The few remaining rainbow in the river are using it as a spawning area
according to the fisheries branch. We're very proud of the project. They
want us to get involved with some other creeks, “

Wildlife clubs often use their manpower to help out the Fish and
Wildlife Branch of the Ministry of the Environment.

“We got a Habitat Conservation Fund grant in the spring of 1990 and
were notified we were, indeed, going to get some goats from the East
Kootenay, from Toby Creek. Larry Ingham and Dave Lewis, another biolo-
gist and also a member, were going to try to trap the goats and we were
told to get the release site ready.

“We released the first goat on June 16, 1990, a mature nanny about 6-
1/2 years old and believed pregnant.”

The club spent $1,100 of its own funds for three electronic collars for
the ke d goats for itoring purp There are now eight goats

“We help do counts such as grizzly bear or goat pop
in our area by reporting dates, species, sex, how many, and showing their
location on a topo map, They don’t have enough funding to do it on their
own. A lot of the clubs help out that way. ;

“We check on the habitat situation, too. We go into the feeding grounds
and see how overmature it’s getting so we can recommend prescribed
buming to rejuvenate the food source.

“One year there was a lot of controversy over the limited entry draw.
We did a survey and found that more antlerless deer were killed on the
highway than by limited entry draw hunters.”

But the club's biggest, most ambitious project has been the transplant of
Rocky Mountain Goats to the Slocan Valley from the East Kootenay.

“The goat transplant started at the time we got the club going in 1986,
with a vision of what the club could do even if it was a small club. John
said wouldn't it be neat if we could transplant goats to this mountain range
for our grandchildren. Traditionally, there were goats there, but there had
been nothing for the past 65 to 70 years because of a combination of little
or no hunting regulations and overhunting, as well as a lot of the traditional
ranges had become overgrown with forests that had choked out the winter
feed.” i . 2

The goat transplant project involved many different persons. Ron start-
ed.on it himself, but gave Mike Rowden credit for doing a lot of the leg-
work. In the East Kootenay, where the goats were to be captured, Ray
Demarchi, the regional biologist, and Carmen Purdy of the Wildlife Her-

“dtage Fund became involved.
» 3.1 Then we got a new, young biologist named Larry Ta, wham who really

‘wanted to sce it go and he was the final key that made it a success.

on the due to the club's efforts.

“We had seven releases. The last was a nanny and a kid about three
weeks old. They're flown over in a specially designed box. They took all
the seats out of the plane and the goat breathes down the neck of the pilot
all the way over from Invermere, The timing is critical on the transplants.
‘The goats are very susceptible to stress, but it's gone like clockwork. Fred

inil our club is very dedi He's there for cach and
every release. We use his truck.

“We will continue the goat transplants. We hope to capture and release
12 more. We and the biologists feel that we could sustain 40 to 60 goats oa
that mountain easily. If we can get 20 up there, they should just take off.

“It’s one of the biggest goat transplants to take place in B.C. and for
such a small club it's a real accomplishment. Larry won an award for it
through the Ministry of the Environment. We couldn’t have done it without
Larry and Carmen.”

Despite their work at making the world a better place for wildlife, the
clubs still come under fire.

“Because we are consumptive users, we have it thrown in our face that
the only reason we want to transplant goats is to shoot them.

“If these people are so dam interested, why don’t they involve them-
selves in enhancement? Put their money where their mouth is?

“The Valhalla or Greenpeace people don’t put moncy in enhancement.
They just concentrate on shutting down the consumptive user.

“If it ever got to the day where I thought the grizzly bear population was
to the point where we've got to stop the hunt, I’d be the first one to say,
we've got to stop shooting grizzly bears. :

“But until that day, I see no reason not to enjoy a hunt as a form. of
recreation.” Pp i