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62 s» Castlegar News October 26, 1988

SPORTS

Pre-ski

By Kirk LaPointe
The Canadian Press

A lot of us still have baseball on our minds.
Football is front and centre. Hockey is must coming
on

Preparing for skiing seems about as pressing as
preparing next year's tax return.

But if you plan to hit the downhill slopes or
cross-country trails by the end of the year, experts

you'd better shape up now.

Skill and prudence can avert injury in skiing,
but conditioning is the best injury prevention.
Recommended are exercises to build flexibility,
strength and endurance.

“The first thing would be improving flexibility
to enjoy downhill skiing,” says Bob Donnelly,
coaching and technical co-ordinator for Alpine
Canada, the Ottawa-based group that oversees
downhill skiing.

NEED STRENGTH

“In our case, people should be looking at getting
some upper-body strength and flexibility,” says
Anton Scheier, programs manager for Cross.
Country Canada, an Ottawa-based organization that
oversees Nordic skiing.

“The populist conception is that if you can walk,
you can ski,” Scheier says. “But it's surprising how
weak people are in the muscle groups required for
the activity particularly in the upper body.

"To be able to ski well and enjoyably, you have
to have some aerobic conditioning,” Donnelly says.
“Aerobic conditioning is going to get you to the
bottom of the hill and allow you to get a full day's
skiing in.”

Donnelly and Scheier recommend _pre-ski
stretching for 10 to 15 minutes.

“We go from to\top to bottom,” Donnelly says.

a definite must

fitness

The neck, shoulders, arms, hips and legs — in that
order — are made limber.

A huge burden is placed on the vulnerable knees
in downhill skiing. To build the muscles around
them, Donnelly advises lying on . your ‘stomach,
crossing your legs, pushing and pulling one back and
forth and using the other leg as resistance,

“As far as building endurance, the sooner you
start, the better,” Scheier says. “Try using the stairs
instead of the elevator, for a start.”

If you already cycle or jog, Scheier recommends
some hill work or mixing short bursts of speed with
regular pacing — commonly called interval training.
Sit-ups and push-ups are also good for building the
stomach and arms.

Here are some recommended stretches, for both
forms of skiing, for specific muscles:

— The quadricep, the muscle 6n the front of
your thighs, can be stretched by grasping an ankle
and pulling the foot gently toward the buttocks.

— The hamstring, the muscle on the back of
your thighs, by putting your leg on a low bench,
extending your leg and lowering your chest toward
the knee.

— The hip abductors, by crossing one foot
behind the other, thrusting your hips out opposite of
the rear foot and leaning toward the same side.

— The hip flexors, by lying on your back,
extending one leg down and flexing the opposite
knee up to the chest.

— The back extensors, by lying on your back
and pulling one knee toward your nose. Try it with
both knees as you become more flexible.

— Pelvic tilts: lie on your back with your arms
on your chest and knees bent, press the small of
your back down by tightening stomach and buttock
muscles, hold for five to 10 seconds.

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game of a three-game set to beat the
L.V. Rogers Bomberettes and take
the seventh annual Kokanee Cup
volleyball tournament.
ettes prevailed 15-13, 10-15 and 16-14

“It was quite a comeback in the
Rockette coach Stoch
Uchida told the Castlegar News. “We
were down 13-8 in the final game but

Rockettes take
Kokanee Cup

The Stanley Humphries Rockettes

After taking top spot in the round
robin, the Rockettes knocked off
Kelowna 15-5 and 15-12 in the semi-
finals before squeaking by LVR for
the title.

Jat. in the final

ae ace

Sandman,

Hi Arrow
tie

The Rockettes won all but one of
their five opening round-robin mat
The loss was an exhibition
defeat as Selkirk College was at the
tournament to round out the 12-team

It was a show of offensive fire.
power as the Sandman Inn and Hi
Arrow Arms went to town on each
other's netminders in a 12-12 final in
CRHL action Monday night at the
Community Complex.

Rick Shukin was the game's
leading sniper as the Hi Arrow for-
ward scored five goals in the game.
Rod Fayant netted a hattrick for
Sandman.

Byron Smith scored three for Hi
Arrow and Clay Martini, Bill Nazar-
off, Rod Zavaduk and Mitch Quaed.
vlieg each contributed singles.
Stewart, Strelieff and Bob
Larsh scored two each for Sandman
and Corbett, Bob Essence and Dave
MacKinnon each scored singles.
Woodland Park Shell plays Hi Arrow
tonight in the next CRHL contest at

the Community Complex.

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Ex-Argo says CFL needs
more U.S. college players

TORONTO (CP) — The Canadian
Football League should spend less
time selling itself to Canadians and
more time promoting the game

and the Washington Redskins of the
NFL, said the Canadian league has to
upgrade the product in the wake of a
talent drain to the~ now-defunct
United States Football League and
the earlier World Football League,

“They're trying to put the cart
before the horse,” said Theismann.
“They're kidding themselves trying
just to sell to Canadians. What do
you sell? I'd go get a product.”

The 39-year-old quarterback-
turned-broadcaster said inflated sal-
aries and the talent squeeze caused
by the USFL pushed the Canadian
league out of the picture for
top-ranked U.S. college players.

Theismann was a Heisman Trophy
runner-up with Notre Dame but was
a disappointing sixth-round draft
pick\of the Miami Dolphins in 1971.
He chose to sign with the Argos
rather. than hold a clipboard for the
Dolphins and led Toronto to a Grey
Cup appearance in Vancouver in his
first year.

Theismann said the CFL must get
American players to recognize the
league and consider it as a viable
option to the NFL.

“Unless you get some interest
south of the border by the kids in the
schools, how are you going to do it?”
asked Theismann.

“What kind of money is a (NFL)
sixth rounder going to make?
They're going to sit on the bench for
two years anyway. Why not come up
here and play.

PROMOTION HELPS

CFL teams are allowed 14 Ameri-
can players and two quarterbacks
(nearly always American) on their
36-man active roster. Theismann is
an ardent believer in the star system
and, in the era of U.S. media satur-
ation in Canada, believes those
American players should be high
profile college stars.

He said while star players don't

Sprinter

TORONTO (CP) — Angella Is-
sajenko says she won't co-operate
with the Canadian Track and Field
Association investigation into illegal
drug use among Canadian athletes
because it suspended her coach,
Charlie Francis.

The CFTA announced Monday it
would investigate statements made
by Issajenko and other athletes,
concerning Ben Johnson, who tested
positive for anabolic steroids fol-
lowing his 100-metre win at the Seoul
Olympics.

“No, I don’t want to talk to them,”
said Issajenko, who has said that she
and Johnson knowingly took ster-
oids. “I don’t have to talk to the
CTFA.

“I have nothing to say to them.”

Issajenko said the association was
wrong for suspending Francis indef-
initely with pay. Johnson was sus-
pended for two years.

“What did Charlie do to be sus-
pended? That's the question,” she
said. “Did he hold Ben down and give
him drugs?

necessarily create winning teams,
they do sell tickets.

“What you need here is that
American kid that everyone's read
about or seen on television for two or
three years.”

The CFL sells itself at the annual
American football coaches conven-
tion with a dinner and highlight film,
The practice has been continued for
35 years, according to John Iaboni,
communications director for the
CFL, and is the sole organized
American sales campaign directed by
the league.

“There's no way humanly possible
to cover all the American colleges,”
said Iaboni, “Every (CFL) team has
scouts and contacts at certain
colleges and they sell the league to
prospective players.”

Lakers

Theismann, who gives motivation-
al speer hes to business groups across
the continent, said a high-powered
campaign aimed at the big U.S.
colleges would suffice.

“Td cut up a highlight film of last
year’s Grey Cup and send scouts to
some of the major guys.

Theismann was full of back-handed
compliments for the Canadian game,
calling it “attractive, exciting, mov-
ing — it fills the gap between soccer
and American football.”

He said the league must preserve
the distinctly Canadian rules if the
game is to survive NFL television
saturation in this country.

“They've got to keep the Canadian
game Canadian — absolutely Cana-
dian, but bring in some of those
American guys.”

defeat

Centennials 5-0

The Yankee connection came
through for the Vernon Lakers
Tuesday night as goalie Brian Lan-
glot recorded the shutout and Corey
Carlson led the scoring in a 5-0
victory over the Merritt Centennials
in the B.C. Junior Hockey League.

Carlson, of Dubuque, Iowa, scored
twice on power plays while Langlot,
a Seattle native, blocked 33 shots to
earn his first BCJHL shutout.

“I started to think of the possib-
ility of a shutout towards the end of
the second period,” Langlot admitted
later.

“I had a pretty good game the last
time we played Merritt. They were
kind of gullible. I gave them my glove
side and they fell for it.”

In other games, the Cowichan
Valley Whalers nipped the New
Westminster Royals 8-7 while the
Richmond Sockeyes edged the Nan-
aimo Clippers 7-6.

Whalers 8 Royals 7
Clayton Fahey scored his second

goal of the game with 29 seconds left
to give the Whalers the victory in
Duncan. .

Bob Vermett led the winners with
three goals while Clinton Black,
Graham Fair and Logan Lampert
completed the attack for the Whalers
which counted five goals on the
power play while outshooting New
Westminster 47-33.

Don Dyer led the Royals with two
goals while Mike Gawryluk, Blaine
Moore, Frankie Biller, Jeff McLean
and Trevor Renkers scored the
others.

Sockeyes 7 Clippers 6

Sascha Pogor scored three goals
including the winner to lead Rich-
mond past the Clippers in Nanaimo.
Jason Jennings added a goal and two
assists for Richmond while Tony
Bobbitt, Wayne Stripp and Dean
Richards scored singles.

Todd Finner and Grant McDonald
each scored twice for the Clippers
who got their other goals from Jamie
Price and Wally Bzdell.

won't co-operate

“Somebody told me it was for
leaving Seoul (early), but he was told
to leave.”

CTFA chairman Jean-Guy Ouell-
ette said Tuesday from his Sher-
brooke, Que., home that Francis was
suspended “to get him out of the
centre of the controversy.

“We're not saying he's guilty of
anything.”

Issajenko also said she will not
take part in the investigation of
Johnson's personal physician, Dr.
Mario (Jamie) Astaphan, by the
Ontario College of Physicians and
Surgeons.

Moon recovering

HOUSTON (AP) — Houston Oilers
quarterback Warren Moon, still
recovering from a broken shoulder
bone, says he didn’t have his “fast:
ball” velocity in Sunday's 44-21 loss
to Cincinnati and may consider more
surgery after the season.

Moon, the former Edmonton Eski-
mo, completed 13 of 32 passes for 158
yards and had two intercepted in
Sunday's game, his second since re-
turning from a broken scapula in his
passing shoulder in the season
opener.

Moon, noted as a strong-armed

passer before the injury, complained
of a lack of velocity following the
game, although quarterback coach
June Jones saw no problem.

“Warren never said anything to
me about it but, from what I saw,
Warren threw the ball about as ac-
curately and about as well as since
I've been here,” said Jones.

Moon reported to the Oilers train-
ing room and declined to elaborate on
his condition Monday. The Oilers
took Tuesday off before starting
work for Sunday night's game in the
Astrodome against Washington,

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October 26, 1988_CastlegarNews 53

Heritage Society seeking logo

By JOHN CHARTERS

The newly-incorporated Castlegar and District
Heritage Society is looking for a new logo. At a monthly
meeting of the executive last week, director George
Apel reported that he had met with a representative of
the Selkirk College and she indicated that the design
class was interested.

As a consequence, the executive has authorized
Apel to set up a competition open to anyone in the
district with an award of $250 for the winning design.
Details will be posted.

The committee has decided to start planning early
for the annual provincial Heritage Week celebrations
which come in February. Preparations were placed in
the hands of directors Dr. Roy Ward and Gerry Rempel.

They will.be looking for strong support from new

JOHN TURNER
. . Slashing style

society members. The winner and runners-up of the
logo contest will be placed on display at that time.

It was noted that tourist attractions and outlets are
greatly reduced here in the winter and spring seasons.
With a view to promoting a year-round local and tourist
interest in Zuckerberg Island Heritage Park and the
local economy, the committee has applied for a
eee-owrnier for the island and chapel house from the

Tourism Employ Program. If granted
: will give employment and training to one person from
November to the end of March.

The chapel house was kept open to several
thousand enthusiastic visitors this summer with the
assistance of student guides from the Castlegar
Chamber of Commerce, a grant from the city, together
with volunteer help,

BRIAN MULRONEY
. proclaims patriotism

The Friends of the Island auxiliary has continued to
keep the house open during the afternoons of
September and October.

Because of the large numbers of visitors, concern
was expressed about the maintenance of the suspension
bridge and the causeway to the island — both of which
are city responsibilities. The island and chapel house
are administered by the society on behalf of the city.

Elsewhere, letters were sent to B.C. Hydro
chairman Larry Bell concerning conditions at the island
pool. Hydro representatives have met with society
president John Charters and vice-chairman Alex Lutz
to discuss improvements.

A question of access to the Castlegar Rail Station,
leased from the city by the society, was discussed and
an interim access plan prepared by landscape architect

ED BROADBENT
seemed overshadowed

Debate gives Turner boost

By JOHN WARD
Canadian Press

OTTAWA — It was a night of raised voices, harsh
cracks and jabbing fingers.

A vivid moment: Frowning, John Turner accuses
Prime Minister Brian Mulroney of selling out the
country in the free trade deal. Mulroney angrily
proclaims his patriotism.

The bitter debate Tuesday was the English half of a

I

bates, gave Turner the victory. His scoring system gave
Turner 80 points, Broadbent 78 and Mulroney 70.

Allan Barr, a Knowlton, Que., dairy farmer, also
gave the night to Turner.

“I didn’t think he'd be able to handié himself as well
as he did,” Barr said.

Not everyone liked Turner's slashing style. Harry

a resident of M y's old neighborhood

in the Westmount area of Montreal, found the Liberal

six. eae two-ni “t election
“contra tdligst toe Sugive” Tanpen. and the:

Liberals — a much-needed boost in the campaign for
election Nov. 21.

NDP Leader Ed Broadbent seemed overshadowed
by the sharp exchanges between the other two leaders.

Moderator Rosie Abella had her work cut out for
her as the participants, especially Mulroney and
Turner, shouted, waved clenched fists and repeatedly
interrupted each other.

Initial reaction gave Turner a lot of points. He
earlier won kudos for his performance in the
French-language debate Monday night.

Reith Blake, an artist and businesswoman from
Ketch Harbour, N.S., said she'll switch her NDP vote
because of the debate.

“I thought Ed was kind of overpowered,” she said.
“i feel badly for him. I'll probably vote Liberal.”

SCORES 80

Neil Steinman of Kingston, president of the

Canadian University Society for Intercollegiate De-

Patriotism sparks exchange

and

On patronage, the issue that tripped him badly in
the 1984 debate, Turner was on the offensive, recalling
Mulroney's righteous attitude condemning Liberal
pork-barrelling.

Mulroney admitted to mistakes, but said he is
turning that around.

Tutner also scored points against Broadbent. He
stung the New Democrat over his party's policy of
withdrawing from NATO.

OB abortion, Broadbent repeated NDP policy that

ooTurne io. ‘sini
trade.

In one sharp exchange, a grim, frowning Turner
went for the jugular: “I happen to believe you have sold
us out. I happen to believe i

Mulroney, visibly angry, parried in mid-sentence:
“You do not have a monopoly on patriotism . . . I want to
tell you that I come from a Canadian family and I love
Canada.”

Turner pressed his attack, listing his objections to
the free trade deal. Mulroney interrupted the litany
repeatedly, saying “wrong again.”

A small grin played over Mulroney's lips for much
of the debate, but the smile tightened to a thin line as
the Liberal leader attacked.

Turner was a stern voice of reproach as he said the
trade deal will reduce Canada to a colony of the United
States.

“Mr. Turner, the document is cancellable on six
months’ notice. Be serious,” Mulroney snapped back

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ttign.a “tiatfer for a woman and her doctor.
— and Turner favor a free vote in the Commons
on the issue. Asked why, if abortion is a matter of
conscience for MPs, it shouldn't also be a matter of
conscience for women and their doctors, they tip-toed
around it.

The Liberal leader was fervent in his closing
statement, portraying the election as a crossroads for
the country. He promised again to tear up the free-trade
deal and start again.

Broadbent's opening and closing themes dealt with
a dream of a just and equitable society in a prosperous
country.

Mulroney plugged free trade as the salvation of the
country.

The door was left open for another debate, this
time devoted to free trade. Turner challenged Mulroney
to meet again and the prime minister, after dismissing
the idea, finally agreed their aides could discuss the
possibility with the Global television network.

Nancy Felde was forwarded to the city engineering
department. In the meantime, Felde is preparing a
detailed set of landscaping plans for further discussion.
At the same time, a study will be done on. the
restoration of the station itself by heritage architect
Bruce Nelson of Kamloops

At the conclusion of the meeting chairman
Charters, on the advice of his physicians, asked the
committee for and received a three-month sick leave.
His duties will pass to vice-chairman Alex Lutz, while
directors*Byng Gerard and Dick McLeod will carry on
plans for the restoration of the station

The next meeting of the executive will be held on
Nov. 24 as a dinner meeting to which Mayor Audrey
Moore has been invited and at which life members of the
society will be given recognition

Mulroney,
Broadbent
defensive

By EDISON STEWART
Canadian Press
Don't write the Liberal obituary

OTTAWA
just yet.

For the second night in a row, John Turner.
clashed with Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and
NDP Leader Ed Broadbent in a three-hour debating
marathon and managed not only to emerge on his
feet, but to put both his opponents on the defensive

If the Nov. 21 election results in anything other
than a Tory majority with the NDP as the official
Opposition, the debates will have been the turning
point.

Especially critical will be the public's response
to a dramatic encounter with Mulroney which had
both leaders shouting over Turner's accusation
Mulroney has sold Canada out to the United States.

Trailing in all the polls and beset by continuing
questions about his leadership, Turnet's job was to
try to salvage at least some seats in the former
Liberal stronghold of Quebec — now on its way to
becoming a Conservative fortress — and to raise
enough doubts about the NDP in the rest of Canada
to push it from second place.

His ultimate objective was to raise enough
doubts about the government's free-trade deal with!
the United States — which Turner called “the cause}
of my life” — to at least limit the Conservatives to al
minority government and thereby, he hopes, kill the|
deal.

With the Conservatives holding a strong lead in|
the polls and less than four weeks of campaigning t
go, that is a tall order — though he and Broadbent!
may have made some progress in Tuesday's debate.

But in one dramatic clash with Mulroney over|
free trade, Turner at least laid his party's full claim!
to the role of official Opposition.

“I happen to believe you have sold us out,”
Turner told Mulroney.

“You do not have a monopoly on patriotism,”
Mulroney shot back, practically leaping at Turner,
“and I resent the fact that your implication that only}
you are a Canadian.

“I want to tell you that I come from a Canadiai
family_and_I love Canada, that's why I did it, t
promote prosperity and don't you
motives.”

212 SEATS
Chretien would lead

OTTAWA (CP) — The sixth hour
of a leaders’ debate spanning two
days degenerated into a shouting
match between Prime Minister Brian
Mulroney and Liberal Leader John
Turner about patriotism and free
trade.

With the buildup event for the
Nov. 21 general election being shown

Mulroney immediately abandoned
his earlier soft-spoken, almost con
descending approach and shouted
that the Liberals did not have a
monopoly on patriotism.

The exchange:

Turner: “I happen to believe you
have sold us out. I happen to be-

lieve...”

on the three English-l tele.
vision networks — CBC, CTV and
Global — Turner accused Mulroney
of selling out Canada with his free-
trade deal with the United States.

: “You do not have a
monopoly on patriotism and I resent
the fact that your implication that
only you are a Canadian. I want to
tell you that I come from a Canadian

Pythians celebrate
their 100th birthday

A total of 28 sisters and one
brother attended a no-host luncheon
Sunday at the Sunshine Cafe in
Rossland to celebrate the 100th
birthday of the Order of the Pythian
Sisters.

District Deputy Grand Chief
Phyllis Woodward of Maple Leaf
Temple No. 4 Rossland assisted by
Hilda Simester was in charge of the
occasion. Following the luncheon a
birthday cake made and decorated by
DDGC Phyllis was presented with
candles in white, red, yellow and blue
— the colors of the order.

The guests sang Bless be the Tie
that Binds, followed by Happy Birth
day

Grand Senior Doris Dimock of
Twin Temple No. 33 Salmo cut the

cake assisted by DDGC Phyllis
Woodward.

Guests attended from Salmo,
Fruitvale, Trail, Castlegar and Ross-
land.

The Order of the Pythian Sisters
was founded by Joseph Addison Hill
in Indiana in October, 1888.

The Knights of Pythias was
founded by Justus Henry Rathbone
in Washington, D.C. in 1864.

The Pythian Sisters, an auxiliary
to the Knights of Pythias, Ss or-
ganized 24 years later, their prin-
ciples being Purity, Love, Equality
and Fidelity.

The Pythians are a fraternal order,
and a non-profit organization.

Its main local project is cerebral
palsy, as well as assisting the child
development centre and several
other projects within the district.

family and I love Canada, that's why
I did it, to promote prosperity and
don’t you impugn my motives.”
Turner: “Once any country yields
its economic levers. Once a country
yields its energy . a
Mulroney: “We have not done it.”
Turner: “Once a country yields its
agriculture . .
Mulroney: “Wrong again.”
Turner: “Once a country yields
itself to a subsidy war with the
United States .. .”
“Wrong again.”
‘On terms of definition,
the political ability of this
country to sustain the political
influence of the United States to
remain as an independent nation —
that is lost forever and that is the
issue of this election.”

‘lcome froma
Canadian family
++. and I love Canada’

Mulroney: “Mr. Turner, Mr. Tur
ner. Let me tell you something, sir
This country is only about 120 years
old, but my own father 55 years ago,
went himself as a laborer with hun.
dreds of other Canadians and with
their own hands, in northeastern
Quebec they built a little town,
schools and churches, and they in
their own way were nation building.

“In the same way that the waves of
immigrants from the Ukraine and
Eastern Europe rolled back the
Prairies and in their own way, in
their own time, they were nation
building because they loved Canada.
I today, sir, as a Canadian, believe
genuinely in what I am doing. I

believe it is right for Canada. I
believe that in my own modest way I
am nation building because I believe
this benefits Canada and I love
Canada.”

Turner: “I admire your father —
worked for what he did. My grand
father moved into British Qolumbia.
My mother was a miner's Ghushter
there. We are just as Canatiian as
you are, Mr. Mulroney

“But I'll tell you this. You men
tioned 120 years of history. We built
a country east and west and north.
We built it on an infrastructure that
deliberately resisted the continental
pressure of the United States. For
120 years we've done it. With one
signature of a pen, you've reversed
that, thrown us into the North-South
influence of the United States and
will reduce us, I am sure, to a colony
of the United States because when
the economic levers go, the political
independence is sure to follow.”

Mulroney: “Mr. Turner, the docu
ment is cancellable on six months’
notice. Be serious! Be serious!”

Turner: “Cancellable? You are
talking about our relationship with
the United States...”

Mulroney: “Commercial document
that is cancellable on six months’
notice.”

Turner: “Commercial document?
That document relates to treaty. It
relates to every facet of our lives. It's
far more important to us than it is to
the United States.”

Mulroney: “Mr. Turner.”

Turner: “Far more important.”

Mulroney: “Please be serious.”

Turner: “Well, I am serious and
I've never been more serious in all
my life.”

landslide,

TORONTO (CP) — A Gallup poll
published today suggests the Lib
erals would win a landslide majority
government in ijhexNov. 21 federal
election if they had Jean Chretien as
their leader instead of John Turner.

The poll, comniissioned by the
Toronto Star, indicates that with
Chretien as leader the Liberals
would be supported by 49 per cent of
decided voters; the Conservatives,
with leader Brian Mulroney, would
have 30 per cent and the New
Democrats, led by Ed Broadbent, 19
per cent.

That would translate into 212 seats
for the Liberals in the 295-seat
Commons, Gallup said. The Conser
vatives would win 61 seats and the
NDP 22.

Today's results are based on inter.
views with 1,034 Canadian adults
Oct. 20-22.

Results from a sample that size are
considered accurate within four per
centage points, 19 in 20 times. That
means, for example, that the Liberals
under Chretien could have the sup
port of as much as 53 per cent of
voters, or as little as 45 per cent

“The over-all conclusion from this
data is that with a popular leader, the
Liberal party could easily regain its
position as Canada's dominant par
ty,” Gallup vice-president Lorne
Bozinoff said in an analysis ac
companying the poll

‘TORIES LEAD POLL

A Gallup poll released Monday

suggested the Liberals had the vote

poll says

of only 28 per cent of those surveyed,
compared with 40 per cent for the
Conservatives and 29 per cent for the
NDP.

In today’s poll, Gallup suggests
more than 50 per cent of voters in
Quebec, Atlantic Canada and Ontario
would vote Liberal if Chretien were
leader.

In British Columbia, the Liberals
would finish with 38 per cent of the
vote, followed by the NDP with 32
per cent and the Conservatives 28
per cent, the survey indicates.

Even in the Prairies, where the
Conservatives hold a commanding
lead, Chretien would pull the Lib-
erals into a tie with the Tories

Gallup also asked how
would respond if Ontario Premier
David Peterson, Liberal candidate
Paul Martin Jr., or former prime
minister Pierre Trudeau were to
replace Turner.

With Trudeau as leader, the poll
suggests the Liberals would get 47
per cent of the, vote, the Conser
vatives 31 per cent and the NDP 18
per cent

Thirty-six per cent of voters would
support the Liberals if Peterson was
leader, with the Conservatives get
ting 36 per cent and the NDP 25 per
cent of the vote, the poll indicates.

Martin, son of former Liberal
cabinet minister Paul Martin, would
garner 22 per cent of the vote if he
was leader of the Liberals, the Con
servatives would get 43 per cent and
the NDP 25 per cent

voters