TORONTO (CP) — The days of generic brands and bulk food stores are number. ed, says a marketing expert with A.C. Neilsen Co. of Canada. Speaking at the Canadian Federation of Independent Grocers’ annual meeting, Steve Grosz said “it was a phase.” “People began to realize there is a price you pay for that. You saw little kids dip- ping their hands in the jellies and peanut butter.” He said large chains used huge discount outlets as, a vehicle to tell consumers they were interested in pro- viding more products at the lowest possible price, but probably realized an econ. omic recovery would make them less viable. Grosz, a vice-president at Neilsen, said independent grocers are gaining a larger portion of the $29 billion that Canadians will spend on gro- ceries this year Honest Ed built business on ‘no’ TORONTO (CP) — It's a business built on ‘no.” “No service, no parking, no credit, no refunds, no frills of any kind,” says Ed Mirvish, the millionaire ringmaster of the discount circus known as Honest Ed's Famous Bargain House in Toronto's west end. “We eliminated all services and by doing so we save the customer money.” The store often opens its doors to lineups — people chasing doorcrasher specials — and customers swarm over merchandise in crowded aisles most of the day. “Some people don't like big crowds,” but our people like getting poked and pushed around,” said Mirvish’s son David. While it’s the 11-cent loaves of bread and 99-cent sacks of rice that get the customers inside, few can resist browsing among 50,000 items in the store's 18 depart ments. The specials are loss leaders, but “we have a chance te get even when they are passing through the store,” David Mirvish said. Along Bloor Street, the tall turquoise letters urging “Don't Just Stand There, Buy Something” are an ironic comment on the shabby, gabbling lineup of more than 250 shoppers waiting for the doors to open at noon Eyeball to eyeball with larger-than-life posters of Dirty Dick (the toothless indigent who for years was thought by the gullible to be Honest Ed), the shoppers noisily discuss the bargains; quartz analog watches, video tapes, lead crystal stemware, disposable diapers, suitcases, Javex bleach and Michael Jackson records. Security guard Adolopho Da Silva, whose facial scar and military attire lend him a sinister appearance, is busy GOING UP, UP, UP . . . New Castlegar Pentecostal Church begins to take shape. Church, located between Twin Rivers Elementary and Castlegar Primary schools, is 775 square meters (8,340 square feet) Tee RAT aS. 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But if there are major, rapid cuts, Canadian motor- ists and homeowners could get a break in their bills be- cause new oil discovered within the last few years will drop in price. “There will be a noticeable benefit to the consumer,” said Mote. “We're not im mune from this.” Mote’s comments came in ment by the Organization of Petroleum Export{ng—Cayn- tries that it will hold a special oil ministers’ meeting Oct. 29 in Geneva to plan a defence of the cartel’s oi] prices in the wake of price cuts by Nor- way, Britain and Nigeria. Earlier this week, Norway began the price cutting and broke with past policies by offering discounts of between $2 and $1.50 a barrel. DON'T Mi JEANS SWEATERS JACKETS PANTS | L You want dependability. Safety. Energy- saving. The right price. mark MAJOR APPLIANCES, TRAIL (SECOND FLOOR) BAY IT’S MAGIC SPACE SAVERS! XIMIZE SAVINGS ACCOUNT” culated Daily & Paid Monthly — al Chequing Convenience Pac Lg ead v Credit Union : NO GOAL... . Castlegar Rebe! Rod Horcott (15) awaits bl f against Columbia Valley ked Rockies. Rockies goaltender successfully bloc shot. Rebels managed only one goal against the Rockies, who got seven goals in this Kootenay Iner- national Junior Hockey League matchup Friday night CosNewsPhoto by Phil Colderbonk Rebels lose to Rockies 7-1 the Rockies, but the team's By The Canadian Press If anyone knows about the Toronto Argonauts’ quarterbacking duo of Joe Barnes and Condredge Holloway, it is Glen Weir, the Montreal Concordes defensive tackle, who is in his 13th Canadian Football League season. Weir was a teammate of Barnes when he joined Montreal in 1976, and he's familiar with Holloway from having to chase the elusive scrambler all over the field. Weir, who plans to retire at the end of the season, doesn't get the chance to chase quarterbacks as much as he used to, but he still provides a good analysis of the pair who are in Montreal to face the Concordes today In the other CFL contest, Winnipeg Blue Bombers, in a titanic struggle with British Columbia Lions for first place in the Western Division, are at home against Edmonton Eskimos. Holloway is bothered by a bruised shoulder, and although he made the trip, it is not known how much he will play. But Weir doesn't expect him to run that much, anyway “When he first played with Ottawa, Holloway always said Weir. “He came out of the game badly torn up. ‘Now, he passes a lot more.” “It's the same for Barnes. When he arrived in Montreal in 1976, he carried the ball a lot because he really didn't understand the offensive system. He sees a lot mor things today. His arm may not be as strong as it was, but he knows exactly what's happening in front of him.” RAQUET HURTING If Barnes starts at quarterback — his backup will be rookie Ricky Turner if Holloway is scratched he probably won't have to endure the heat from Steve Raquet's pass rushes. Raquet, who stretched knee ligaments three weeks ago, still has difficulty running Montreal Concordes could clinch second There is also some good news on the injury front — rover Phil Jones will return to the lineup after missing last week's game. The Concordes could clinch second place and home-field advantage in the Eastern Division semifinal with a victory over Toronto, combined with a triumph by Ottawa Rough Riders over Hamilton Tiger-Cats in a game last night. If the reverse happens in both cases, they could be fighting for their playoff lives. Two Cencordes’ candidates for Schenley awards are seeking to reach milestones in the game — tight end Nick Arakgi needs 46 yards to reach 1,000 on pass receptions, a feat he has accomplished once previously, and rookie running back Dwaine Wilson is 51 yards short of 1,000. The last Montreal player to reach that plateau for a season was David Green in 1979. REST VETERANS The Argonauts, with first place already clinched in the East, plan to leave several ailing veterans at home. Defensive tackle Bubba Smith and cornerback Lamont Meacham, out with bruised calf and toe injuries respectively, will be replaced by Franklin King and Darrell Wilson. Offensive tackle John Malinosky will probably sit out as well, giving way to Tom Hook. Slotback Emanuel Tolbert is expected back from a four-week absence because of a broken bone in his foot. In Winnipeg, where the Bombers entered weekend play tied with the Lions, who faced Calgary last night, the team was heartened by the news that slotback Joe Poplawski, an offensive key, will join the lineup despite hobbling earlier with a calf injury. After watching him work out Thursday, head coach Cal Murphy said: “Joe looked good, and he will dress.” Poplawski, a seven-year pro, has 61 receptions for 931 yards this season. By CasNews Staff Castlegar Rebels lost 7-1 to Columbia Valley Rockies in a Kootenay International Ju. Castlegar’s Community Com. plex. The first period proved uninteresting to the Castle gar fans, as no goals were scored. The Rebels used their defensive pressure to stop luck didn’t hold in the other two periods as their defen sive system broke down and the Roekies netted seven goals in the two periods, while the Rebels managed only one. Columbia Valley's scoring team got off to a quick start in the second frame as Eric Gunster scored 54 seconds into the period. NHL LAST NIGHT Randy Morris responded for the Rebels at 7:08 with the team's only goal. He was assisted by Dan Freidel and Kelly Hurd. The Rockies got goals from Trevor Jensen at 9:05 and Ernie Parent at 10:25 for a 3-1 lead at the end of the period. In the third frame, Ed Pruss opened the scoring for Columbia Valley with a goal at 1:16. Terry Moore fol- lowed with one at 4:46. Bob Ede scored at 12:47 and Jason Olsen at 14:41 com pleted the scoring to make it 7-1’ for Columbia Valley. The Rebels were in Spo- kane Saturday. night hoping fot a victory OvGr the: first place Flames. Thursday night they hoat Beaver Val ley Nite Hawks at the Com munity Complex. double chins. their bags. chatting to regulars and chucking babies under their He admitted the regulars sometimes get unruly “People is nuts here, sometimes. A lot of people take stuff (about $250,000 worth last year), you have to check “Some days I see people fall on the floor. These people, they just trample them. they don't care.” VSE stock prices VANCOUVER (CP) Prices were down in light trading Friday on the Van couver Stock Exchange. Vol ume to close was 9,471,412 shares. Of issues traded, 159 ad vanced, 261 declined and 443 were unchanged. The VSE index was 947.25, down 6.34 from Thursday's close In the industrials, E] Dor ado Systems rose .04 to $1.44 on 45,700 shares, B.C. Re sources gained .02 to $2.78 on 15,065, Auto Marine Electric was steady at $7 on 5,000 and American Resources Prefer red A climbed .15 to $2.25 on 5,000. MMC Video One Can ada advanced .10 to $2.70 and International Medical was up 05 to $1.15. On the resource board, Amazon Petroleum fell $1.50 to .40 on 249,500 shares, Interlake Development drop- ped .06 to $1.04 on 89,570, Ayerok Petroleum gained .01 to .04 on 86,219 and Con solidated Five Star remained at .41 on 83,298. Zytec Computers was up .21 to $2.74 and Ramm Venture climbed .02 to $1.65. 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(AP) — Right winger Ray Neufeld deflected in a shot from 10 feet with 908 left in regulation time to give Hartford Whalers their third straight victory with a 3-2 decision over Vancouver Ganucks in a National Hockey League game Saturday night. The Whalers, now 4-1-1 and atop the Adams Division, went three games over the .500 mark for the first time since joining the NHL six years ago. Mark Johnson, who collected two assists, helped set up the winning play by getting the puck to Risto Siltanen at the right point, and Siltanen's 40-foot slapshot was redirected by Neufeld into the goal ‘The loss dropped the Canucks to 1-5 for the season and was the team's fifth straight defeat. Hartford led 2-0 on goals by Sylvain Turgeon and Bobby Crawford. The goals were the fourth of the season for each PENGUINS 3 FLYERS 1 PITTSBURGH (AP) — Doug Shedden scored his second goal of the season with 37 seconds remaining in the third period to give Pittsburgh Penguins a 3-1 win over Philadelphia Flyers. Michel Dion stopped 37 shots as the Penguins won their second straight game and beat the Flyers for the first time since Oct. 23, 1982. Shedden redirected Andy Brickley's pass past goalie Pelle Lindbergh for the winner. Defenceman Moe Mantha scored into the empty net with 10 seconds left to wrap up the vietory After a scoreless first period, Ron Sutter gave the Flyers a 1-0 lead at 7:09 of the second period. Lindsay Carson sent a pass from the corner to the goal mouth and Ron Sutter converted Rich Sutter's rebound. CANADIENS 4 NORTH STARS 2 MONTREAL (CP) — Sometime starter Steve Shutt scored his first two goals of the National Hockey League season to pace Montreal Canadiens to a 42 victory over Minnesota North Stars. Mark Hunter and Chris Nilan also scored for the first time this season for the Canadiens, 3-1-1 Brian Lawton and Dennis Maruk scored first-period goals for the North Stars, who showed some good early spark, but sputtered ineffectively for two-and-a-half periods after that. They spent much of the game in their own end of the ice and it showed. Montreal outshot Minnesota 34-13. RANGERS 6 CAPITALS 5 LANDOVER, Md. (AP) — Mike Allison, playing his first game of the season, scored on a rebound at 16:07 of the third period to lift New York Rangers to their first victory of the season, a 6-5 triumph over Washington Capitals. Washington, 2-2-1, built a 4-1 first-period lead and appeared to be in control. But Allan Haworth of the Capitals was assessed a major penalty at 10:56 of the second period when his stick cut the cheek of Ranger defenceman Ron Gresehner, and the game turned around while New York was on the power play. New York, 1-21, scored three times with the man advantage and went ahead with another goal four seconds after Haworth left the penalty box Greschner, who did not miss any playing time after being hit with the stick, scored one of the second-period power-play goals and assisted on another ISLANDERS 8 KINGS 3 UNIONDALE, N.Y. (AP) — Red-hot Mike Bossy surged to the top of the National Hockey League goal-scoring race Saturday night with four goals, leading New York Islanders to an 83 rout of the winless Los Angeles Kings. Bossy pumped in two goals in the first period and one in each of the next two periods, giving him nine for the year. It was the fifth four-goal game of his NHL career. Bossy also assisted on three goals. Brent Sutter tipped in his shot in the first period and John Tonelli — who collected assists on all of Bossy’s goals scored twice on plays involving Bossy. Sutter had a goal and five assists, giving the line 19 points for the night. RED WINGS 7 BLACK HAWKS 4 DETROIT (AP) — Ron Duguay broke a 3-3 tie with his fourth goal of the season late in the second period and Ivan Boldirev added a pair of third-period goals Saturday night as Detroit Red Wings snapped a three-game losing streak with a 7-4 National Hockey League victory over Chicago Black Hawks. Steve Yzerman intercepted a pass inside the Chicago blue line and slipped the puck to Duguay, who slid a soft backhander past Black Hawks’ netminder Murray Banner. man. The goal capped a burst that had the Red Wings overcome a 3-1 Chicago lead with three goals in 4:32. After Darryl Sutter gave Chicago a 3-1 advantage at 6:59 of the middle period, Pierre Aubry converted Kelly Kisio's pass to cut the margin to 3-2 and John Ogrodnick tied the score on a power play 2:34 later Boldirev scored his first goal at 2:08 of the third period and added his second of the game and fourth of the season midway through the period, 14 seconds after Danny Gare increased Detroit's lead to 6-4. NORDIQUES 12 MAPLE LEAFS 3 TORONTO (CP) — Quebee Nordiques got two short-handed goals from Tony McKegney and one from Dale Hunter in a 12-8 rout Saturday night that sent Toronto Maple Leafs to the fourth straight defeat. Peter Stastny, with two goals, Michel Goulet, Andre Savard, Bruce Bell, Anton Stastny, Wilf Paiement, Alain Cote and Peter Loob also scored for the Nordiques. John Anderson, Rick Vaive and Greg Terrion scored for the Leafs. Referee Bryan Lewis had a quick whistle in the first period and it cost the Leafs twice. With no score, Gary Leeman then Peter Ihnacak put the puck past Nordique goalie Mario Gosselin on separate plays 2 split second after Lewis had blown the play dead when he lost sight of the Quebec evened its record at 3.3 while Toronto dropped to 24. CFL-NFL game could be dream come true The Canadian’ Football League Players’ Association is push- ing for an all-star game be tween CFL and National Football League players. Association executive dir. ector Steve Mazurak, in a memo to player representa. tives on eacn CFL team, says such a game would enhance the reputation of the CFL and destroy the general per- ception that the NFL is the World's best football league. Mazurak’'s proposal, yet to be outlined to CFL officials, would have the all-star game played under CFL rules at the B.C. Place dome during the first week of January. The CFL stars would face an NFL team comprised of players from the first 15 teams to finish out of the playoffs. “Over the pagt few weeks, and after watching the Can KISBL general The Kootenay Internation. al Senior Baseball League of. ficially eapped the lid on the 1984 season with the Annual General Meeting held in Grand Forks recently Expansion was a major topie for discussion and an eight-team,” two-division framework for the KISBL in 1985 is a very strong pos sibility. The League's current membership, including the Trail Orioles, Trail Cardinals, Beaver Valley Blazers, Grand Forks Slag Dusters, Kelowna Prime Cheice and Republic Black Tigers have again con firmed participation for next year. Meanwhile, Colville. Chewelah Lumberjacks, who elected to take a year’s leave of absence this summer, have expressed 2 solid interest in rejoining the KISBL in 1986. Idaho and the KISBL will also explore the possibility of an interJocking schedule with the Thompson-Okans gan League. With the col ada Cup hockey series, I couldn't help but think that international athletic events are indeed the optimum in sports-spectator appeal,” Mazurak says in the memo. “In an effort to assist the overall marketing of the CFL, and Canadian football in general, I feel that a CFL- NFL matchup would not only be a dream come true for Canadian football fans, but paramount to the growth of the CFL. “Credibility is what sells tickets and it is credibility that the NFL has going for it. Football fans in the USA perceive their games to be bigger than it really is hence, lucrative TV contracts and full stadiums. HINDERS ATTENDANCE ‘Conversely, football fans in Canada perceive the Can adian game to be less than the great game it really is holds meeting lapse of the Merritt Cubs following the '84 campaign, the TOL has been reduced to a two team roster and an interlock with the Kootenay circuit is being considered. League attendance, mean while, enjoyed an 81 per cent increase over 1983 with Kel. owna Prime Choice leading the gate parade, attracting 1,150 fans to their 10 home dates. The Beaver Valley Blazers on the other hand, despite winning the KISBL crown for the third conse cutive year, once more sag ged poorly in attendance, at tracting a scanty 198 fans for their 10 home appointments at Fruitvale Otherwise, Art Mercer, citing personal reasons, has resigned as KISBL secretary and will be replaced by Don Szilagyi from Trail. Mercer, who served on the League executive since the birth of the KISBL in 1977, was very instrumental in the league's growth and The next order of business for the KISBL will be the January draft of free agents and Senior Babe Ruth play ers in Trail hence, less-than-adequate TV or Placid, N.Y., to realize the g of international a ag decreasing attendance. “It is only through an international event that the CFL can gain credibility with its fans. One only has to look at what happened at Lake competition. “Hockey in the United States jumped by leaps and bounds after a victory over the USSR team. Because of their credible performance Sutcliffe could return to Cubs NEW YORK (AP) — Rick Suteliffe’s agent says it is reasonable to think that the right-hander, who has ap plied for free agency, will be back with Chicago Cubs. Barry Axelrod, who repre- sents Sutcliffe, said the Cubs “remain the front-running contender to retain his ser. vices for 1985 and the fu ture.” Axelrod said the filing, which took place Friday, was “a procedurual step geared to protect Sutcliffe’s rights to become a free agent if no agreement can be reached with the Cubs.” Buteliffe was one of six players to file for free agency utilityman Danny Meyer of Oakland and out fielders Champ Summers of San Diego, Ruppert Jones of Detroit, Jim Wohlford of Montreal and Al Bumbry of Baltimore. Suteliffe was 16-1 with the National League East cham. pions. He won 15 straight de- cisions, including the game that clinched the division The six-foot-seven pitcher, who was traded by Cleveland Indians to the Cubs on June 13, is one of two Type A free agents that have Five other Type A players are eligible to become free agents this year: Bruce Sut ter of St. Louis, Fred Lynn of California, Dan Driessen of Montreal, Jim Gantner of Milwaukee and Cliff Johnson of Toronto. Suteliffe, 28, made $900,000 plus incentives this season. The team has offered him a $1 million-a-year con tract for three years, a pact he said was not “a sincere or serious offer.” Teams have until Nov. 5 to re-sign any player who has declared for free agency. The deadline for filing for free agency is Oct. 29. The draft will be held Nov. 8 in New York. The MLBPA said others who have declared for free agency include: infielder mon and infielder Mark Wag- ner of Oakland, designated hitter Greg Luzinski of Chi. cago White Sox, pitcher Burt Hooton and shortstop Bill Russell of Los Angeles, eat cher John Stearns of New York Mets, pitcher Randy Lereh and catcher Steve Nic- osia of San Franciseo, out- fielder John Grubb of De troit, outfielder-designated hitter Ken Singleton of Bal son of Boston, pitchers Jim Kern and Jerry Augustine of